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UK ISPs to Block TPB

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Slavik, Apr 30, 2012.

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  1. Slavik

    Slavik XenForo Moderator Staff Member

  2. Shelley

    Shelley Well-Known Member

  3. Adam Howard

    Adam Howard Well-Known Member

    Switch DNS and all is well again.

    But I do agree it is a step closer to internet censorship, which I strongly dislike. I can technically use Google just as well as I use The Pirate Bay. Does this mean one day soon, Google too will be censored?
     
  4. mrGTB

    mrGTB Well-Known Member

    Not sure why they focus mainly on TPB, there <link removed> around now than that one.
     
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  5. ChemicalKicks

    ChemicalKicks Well-Known Member

    FFs what a crap country we live in.

    I had switched to Open DNS a while ago and that looks like a good call.
     
  6. ChemicalKicks

    ChemicalKicks Well-Known Member

    I might mirror them.
     
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  7. Sadik B

    Sadik B Well-Known Member

    The very first statement is wrong

    TPB does not host anything. These days with magnet links, not even the peer info is stored, so technically they are just a P2P search engine.
     
  8. Luke F

    Luke F Well-Known Member

    >2012
    >not using private trackers
     
  9. Pereira

    Pereira Well-Known Member

    Um... people still use the pirate bay? o_O

    Don't see the issue here. It's only a court ruling and it can be appealed.

    It's been blocked in my own country since 2009.
     
  10. Blackend

    Blackend New Member

    If you expect them to understand the way torrents work, you are in for a surprise! Writing about how piracy is evil and TPB should be burnt at the stake is good enough for them to get 'views' and be ignorant at the same time.
     
  11. Floris

    Floris Guest

    I can see OpenDNS growing by the minute.
     
  12. Sador

    Sador Well-Known Member

    Just wait till that gets forbidden. ;)
     
  13. Floris

    Floris Guest

    I remember back in the high school days before there were DVD's that kids had burned CDs with all sorts of stuff on it, nobody was on the Internet yet.
     
  14. DRE

    DRE Well-Known Member

    Oh snap Avengers cam? :eek:
     
  15. Anthony Parsons

    Anthony Parsons Well-Known Member

    I honestly don't think it is a huge issue at all, and really has nothing to do with Internet censorship. A site is engaged in the illegal distribution of copyright movie and music content, whether hosted or peer connected, it is a front to illegal activity.

    It should be blocked and shutdown and the people involved taken for everything from ripping off the music and movie industries.

    It is one thing for something to be shared knowingly, but if people are no longer being paid for their work, then it all comes tumbling down and suddenly you don't have music and movies being created as the costs cannot be recouped. It is a massive industry with major implications in every country.

    This is illegal activity and should be shutdown / blocked. This is not censorship, plain and simple. IMHO, to use censorship as an excuse for illegal online activity, then your morals need a little fine tuning because that is a justification to excuse illegal activity in one corner that you may want to abuse, yet possibly believe it relevant in another area, such as child pornography, snuff films, etc.

    Illegal activity is illegal activity, you can't apply censorship as an excuse to one area without then literally removing limits online of all and any illegal activity.
     
  16. ChemicalKicks

    ChemicalKicks Well-Known Member

    Illegal, really? Which part of the site is illegal?
     
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  17. mrGTB

    mrGTB Well-Known Member

    I can remember owning an Amiga 500 and visiting a "Sunday School" building that was rented out one night in the week for around 2 hours in the evening you paid to get in. Loads of people would turn up in cars bringing in their Amiga computers setting them up on tables, then go queue for floppy Games and Programs they wanted to copy using a program named X-Copy Pro, which the people renting the building would be sat at another table offering a huge collection of floppies to choose from.

    Please Note: This was back in the day before the word "Piracy" was even talked about taking place, funny thinking back now that they rented a Sunday School building to do it publicly and just how many people would turn up packing the building out to the rafters. That's how you got your weekly supply of new programs and games back them for the Amiga and nothing was seen as being wrong doing it at the time. You paid a fee to get in, which covered copying as much as you could within 2 hours. LOL

    Have a laugh at this.

     
  18. Fred Sherman

    Fred Sherman Well-Known Member

    Copywrite infringement? Seriously, that was a question?

    Ask Kier how he'd feel if a hacked copy of Xenforo found its way on that site. Would that not be theft? Money lost that doesn't grow his business or feed his family?
     
  19. Sador

    Sador Well-Known Member

    Yes, but which part of it? I'm not sure about all countries, but here for example, downloading is legal. Uploading is not. Allowing people to upload is also not allowed. Allowing people to download, however, is. Which makes for an interesting question, what is illegal? If the content isn't hosted on the server of the website, is the site still illegal? If so, wouldn't that make websites like Google illegal as well, considering how much illegal content they're showing us, and how easily you can find illegal software, movies and so on with? And if Google isn't illegal, then were do we cross the line? And if it is, why doesn't anyone complain about thát?

    In reality, only a small amount of people download illegally because they don't want to pay. The majority downloads because it's either better, quicker, has more stuff available, or is in other ways superior. I'm still smiling each time I buy a movie, and see 15 minutes of preview stuff, warnings against illegal copies, more ads, more warnings, and so on before you can view it. Then, if you download it, you just press play and you're done.

    I'm still laughing each time you need to go through ridiculous stuff to get a game going, because of the antipiracy stuff implemented. Which has been torn off in the illegal release, but is still a pain for the paying customers. Always online mode forced on you? Games not working due to the antipiracy code (ubisoft, for example), or other sorts of annoyances? Not if you get the pirated edition.. Plus you get free unlimited backups, something some companies (EA's online buying method, for example) are still lacking.

    In my opinion, a lot of companies are just trying to score some quick money. They throw a game together, release it unfinished, patch it for a few months, and then ditch it for the next project (Again, EA for example). Big, amazing quality games are rare (same for movies, music and lots more), and the ones that are actually good, get bought just fine. People just don't wanna spend $100 on a game that isn't good or hard and is finished within 3 hours.

    I think companies have to think of different ways to make money, as the internet will only progress. People with no clue about internet, are downloading now, which they wouldn't have 5 years ago. Some companies are adapting (spotify, youtube), some companies find new ways to find income (World of Warcraft, League of Legends - based on a "free to play, but buy to get more" kinda thing) and are very successful. So I think it's still possible, just requires a little more effort from the companies... and I doubt that's a bad thing. :)
     
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  20. ChemicalKicks

    ChemicalKicks Well-Known Member

    How is the site infringing copyright?
     
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