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Typography Addiction

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Forsaken, May 26, 2011.

  1. Forsaken

    Forsaken Well-Known Member

    I had to run by my house earlier (not living at home as I'm in the process of getting ready to move still) and noticed that a lot of the books on one bookcase were dedicated to typography (I'm an avid typophile, so that wasn't surprising) which made me think to look through my office & network to see just how much stuff I have dedicated to it.

    Books: I have close to 100 books dedicated to typography whether its the history of, learning how to do something, or the science of typography. Worst part is, I remember reading all but two of the books :cry:.

    Typefaces: 8,431 typefaces (These are all the commercial ones), and over 50,000 free typefaces.

    Typography Programs: I have 15 programs that I use for typography, whether its for organizing them (Suitcase Fusion) or designing/editing them (Font Studio, Fontographer, Illustrator) and other misc ones.

    Typography Feeds: About 40 (I Love Typography, Typophile etc).

    My point being... Anyone know any self-help typography groups? I think I'm in dire need :cry:.
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  2. CyclingTribe

    CyclingTribe Well-Known Member

    I had GB's of the things when I was designing regularly.

    I once spent 5 hours trawling through all the fonts I had at the time, just to find the perfect match for a customer's logo that he'd had done elsewhere years ago (and the design firm had closed down). I found the little blighter, but had a sore back, stiff neck and needed a gallon of coffee to get me back to normal ... :D

    It's amazing just how minutely subtle some of the differences are between fonts, isn't it?
  3. Forsaken

    Forsaken Well-Known Member

    Thats mostly because the laws pertaining to typography IP are such that the font isn't copyrighted, only the font file is. Basically as long as you adapt the font to a way where it can b differentiated, you're doing something perfectly legal.

    I actually tend to design my own fonts (or use to as its hard to use a tablet now, and its a lot of work to get things right. I much prefer designing/styling a whole new site than creating a single font sometimes :cry:.
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  4. Shelley

    Shelley Well-Known Member

    I remember creating a font pack years ago using some free program (can't remember what it was) and I can say I praise anyone that creates fonts. The time you can spend on these often goes overlooked, I'd go mad, okay madder than what I am if i did this for a living.
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  5. Forsaken

    Forsaken Well-Known Member

    You have to have a very steady hand to do it as well if you want to do the more detailed fonts, which is partially why I can't do it any longer.
  6. Shelley

    Shelley Well-Known Member

    I may give the whole font creation thing a try again. There's some styles of font I want to create but unsure what are the best programs to use. What programs would you suggest?

    Edit: I'm using windows 7
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  7. Forsaken

    Forsaken Well-Known Member

    Fontographer if you're fairly good with detailed work, or Fontlab Studio if you're willing to pay down the money + learn how to use it properly.

    You can also do the individual characters in Illustrator and move it to the programs.
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  8. Shelley

    Shelley Well-Known Member

    I'll look into that. Judging by the screenshot it looks like it's using some kind of path, anchor point feature which is simple enough if your fluent with photoshops Pen tool.

    I don't think I can justify purchasing that much for the program unless I took on some jobs which entailed this to be used and pay for itself like i did when I first purchased photoshop. But that fontlab studio does look like something I can get to grips with easily. Thanks Forsaken.

    Illustrator for me is not an option, loathe using the program. If I'm correct I could do this in photoshop and then import the individual font creations to the specialised program?
  9. Forsaken

    Forsaken Well-Known Member

    Custom font logo's start paying at around $1,500 for a skilled designer, so the cost is far outweighed by the benefit of one job ;p.

    It pretty much is using the pentool, and it does work with a tablet and stylus (which I recommend especially ones aimed at typographers).

    I actually don't like Illustrator much myself, and I'm not sure whether or not Photoshop works with it. You could go Photoshop -> Illustrator -> FontLab though.
  10. Digital Doctor

    Digital Doctor Well-Known Member

    I like Arial better than Times New Roman.
  11. Forsaken

    Forsaken Well-Known Member

    No one ever accused you of taste though :).
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  12. Digital Doctor

    Digital Doctor Well-Known Member

    sets mode /ignore +fontlover
  13. Kim

    Kim Well-Known Member

    Was going to ask the same thing :p

    I have tried Fontographer too, and wowsers font creation is time consuming!

    Forsaken... it's an area of great interest, nothing wrong with your collection, it's admirable in fact to deeply study something you are interested in! :D
  14. Shelley

    Shelley Well-Known Member

    If a font could make you physically sick it would have to be Arial. The font of the damned.
  15. CyclingTribe

    CyclingTribe Well-Known Member

    Interesting how serifs work too ... I never realised until I read about it, and then experimented with block of serif and sans-serif text.

    I think one of the things that makes XF so easy to get into is the font choice for post content!! :D
  16. Digital Doctor

    Digital Doctor Well-Known Member

    The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.
    The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.
    The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.
    The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.

    Times New Roman:
    The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.
    The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.
    The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.
    The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.


    Arial is "cleaner" than Times New Roman.

  17. Forsaken

    Forsaken Well-Known Member

    Your post was borderline off-topic as it wasn't really a discussion on whether you like certain fonts, but more along the subject of typography.

    Your attempt at derailment failed, and now you're just peeved that you look bad... Once again.

    Obviously you don't realize that each font has its use, and that Times Roman while cliche and over used is a very useful font for heading (exactly why its used by most news papers and magazines).
  18. Forsaken

    Forsaken Well-Known Member

    Well... Not so much an interest as an addiction.

    I've showed you a portion of my fonts (I went through about 5k looking for a decent font for what you wanted but you're so picky :mad:) so I've gone far past interest :p.

    I might actually start working on doing calligraphy and typography again, once I have time. Just difficult to use a pen tool/tablet when I don't have as much feeling in my hands anymore.
  19. Digital Doctor

    Digital Doctor Well-Known Member

    Re: Offtopic.
    Yes it was, my apologies.
    I started using Arial vs. Times New Roman when I switched from Wordperfect 5.1 for DOS to Word 97. It was probably "bigger" and took up more space so I could make my essays shorter.
  20. Kim

    Kim Well-Known Member

    LOL True... but probably an addiction that does you good not harm :p

    I used to do Calligraphy.. by hand that is, did a course ages ago, not really done any for a long time though...hmmm maybe I should hand write my own font for that project I was telling you about!

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