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Too little contrast in the thread / post time stamp field

Discussion in 'General XenForo Discussion and Feedback' started by karll, Jun 3, 2014.

  1. karll

    karll Well-Known Member

    I sometimes struggle to read the time field of the threads here on xenforo.com, so I hereby propose the contrast be increased. Maybe people with younger eyes don't have so much of a problem? Well, I think there are plenty slightly older members, so could potentially affect a lot of people.

    The problem is present in all the styles.
     
  2. Amaury

    Amaury Well-Known Member

    The simple solution here is for those with bad eyes to increase the zoom on their browser.
     
  3. Tracy Perry

    Tracy Perry Well-Known Member

    The zoom will have nothing to do with the contrast. Some people (especially as they get older) have a harder time focusing on colors that are light on white backgrounds.
     
  4. Amaury

    Amaury Well-Known Member

    The bigger it is, though, the more it stands out. Like, even though it's not actually darker or bold, text will actually appear darker and bold at bigger sizes.
     
  5. karll

    karll Well-Known Member

    I don't think zooming is really the best solution to this issue. With an increasing number of older users, I think the onus is on the XF side, and really it should be an easy fix as well.

    Contrast issues are turn-offs to large groups of users.
     
  6. Amaury

    Amaury Well-Known Member

    14 minutes ago - 100%:
    upload_2014-6-3_7-19-9.png

    14 minutes ago - 200%:
    upload_2014-6-3_7-19-48.png

    Definitely easier to see.
     
  7. Tracy Perry

    Tracy Perry Well-Known Member

    Just now
    Screen Shot 2014-06-03 at 9.25.25 AM.png
    and just now
    Screen Shot 2014-06-03 at 9.25.15 AM.png
    Same zoom level. Now you tell me which is easier to focus on? :p
     
  8. karll

    karll Well-Known Member

    I don't necessarily contest the claim that it's easier to read when zoomed vs. not zoomed. I would just prefer that a real solution was implemented on the XF side, especially since that should involve little work and potentially help a lot of people.

    Anyway, I suppose it's up to other members to like my post (the OP) so it gets noticed by the XF team. Come on, oldskoolers ....!
     
  9. AndyB

    AndyB Well-Known Member

    Hi karll,

    Increasing the font size and or color might make those with poor vision have an easier time, but the other group with good vision would end up complaining.

    The low contrast of the date and post number is by design. The idea is to emphasize the message content and draw less attention to these other items.

    The other factor which also plays into issue is the hardware one is using. For example, how the page looks between a desktop, tablet and mobile devise factor into the choice of font size and contrast.

    I have found that a quality computer display allows my old eyes (age 54) to see things much better because the fonts will have better contrast and resolution. I also use the browsers Zoom function when my eyes are tired.
     
  10. Tracy Perry

    Tracy Perry Well-Known Member

    Even with my poor(er) eyesight I can see the font size just fine... but it helps that I'm on a 32" monitor. :D
    And as in all designs, they can be changed. You can emphasize it by having a lower contrast as it is but then the smaller font size comes into play. Or you can increase the contrast of it and leave it at the smaller font size (which in itself de-emphasizes that information).

    I think that the Mac probably has some the best design for displaying web related text (especially compared to Windows)... and my LG monitor is plenty crisp. The problem is that (especially when you've been staring at a computer for the last 8 hours) the lower contrast can cause eye strain when you are trying to focus on it. I honestly don't pay much attention to those fields myself so it doesn't really bother me.
     
  11. Adam Howard

    Adam Howard Well-Known Member

    Size alone will not help for those who have less than perfect eyesight. In my style, Vision (link), I simply changed

    @dimmedTextColor

    @mutedTextColor

    @faintTextColor

    #000000

    This made all the original light gray text readable for everyone.
     

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