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I'll restart the argument, sorry. I think that it shouldn't be there, clearly you can see you have posted in that thread as you still have the avatar there. Having two just looks odd and sparks attention, which isn't what you want in a style like XF's I don't think. I just think it would look/work better without. A lot better. Otherwise it will continue to come up again and again - both on member forums and here.