Very good post. Brings a smile on my face.Im not one of the bad guys. i make no money from SFS, I do it for the love of sticking one to the spammers. The more spammers I piss off, the better. You guys help me do that, so its a high-5 both ways.
Abuse? What about 3rd party tools abusing his services by polluting them with false positives? Seriously, he should start charging for his services.
I do not use SFS or XenUtils, and have no problem with automated spambots, and the few human spammers I get I can deal with. For me personally, I will not use a blacklist service until I exhausted all other possibilities, cause the privacy issues are very real. I have used such services before, but then I checked against 10 or so databases, and weighed each one, and set a pain treshold for blocking. It worked, but since that I have discovered other methods that works equally well, and I am more at ease not sharing my users info with 3rd parties. For now my Q&A seems to hold them at base, when that changes, I will just update my questions.Yes! I am concerned.
Let's block everyone using xenUtilities and call it a day, SFS (StopForumSpam) . Let's see how xenForo users react next time.
In European countries this is very different, at least in some. In Norway you need special permissions to store that kind of data. AlexT raises a valid point, almost every standard Privacy policy contains some parts about sharing their information (and most defaults to that "we don't"). And with the internet being international, it is very easy to suddenly fall under foreign law for some reason or another (it could be as simple as you have prices in a local currency for products you sell).AlexT, in america, email addresses, IP addresses and usernames are not protected personal information... its why the police can retrieve all that info without warrants and stuff.
This is still an ongoing issue but now its really starting to piss me off. Repeat offenders, who continue to submit fake/false data will be publicly named and will have their access to the API completely removed, not just submitting via a bad API key which has been happening so far.
I wouldnt normally go this far but this abuse has become an intolerable waste of my time and those of innocent people caught up in this mess
I'm guessing the issue stems from users using older versions of XenUtilis?For querying, no. Unlike other sites, we allow access without having to have an API key but if it continues, who knows what this minority might cause us to do.
For submitting, yes, and Im removing all their keys.
This is still an ongoing issue but now its really starting to piss me off. Repeat offenders, who continue to submit fake/false data will be publicly named and will have their access to the API completely removed, not just submitting via a bad API key which has been happening so far.
I wouldnt normally go this far but this abuse has become an intolerable waste of my time and those of innocent people caught up in this mess
How can we as users of the service make sure we are not submitting false data? We use XenUtiles and updated as soon as the issue was announced.
This is still an ongoing issue but now its really starting to piss me off.
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