Serious ? to UK folks.

[Dixie McCall]

So I’m sure this post is going to get deleted but I have a serious question to people living in the UK. I am very British myself so I’m not asking in a mean way at all. I haven’t been back to the UK since 2021 and of course have never had a run in with any UK police, in fact I nearly dated one when I was younger. So my question isn’t of any malice whatsoever.

There is no question that the UK has gone off the rails in terms of arresting people for posts the government doesn’t like.

I saw a few videos of these arrests and was so pissed off I had to walk away. The “officers” doing the arrests were so disgustingly arrogant. I can’t imagine agreeing to police like this.

So my question is. Why do Brits allow this and just stand there and get arrested by people with no weapons? No one puts up a fight or at least sits down and makes the word police carrying them out. Why are people in the UK so passive about this? What is the mentality behind allowing this? I mean they have no weapons so being afraid of being shot by the police (like in the US) isn’t a factor.

I’m just curious why British citizens are putting up with this? It’s insane IMHO.

If they did this to me I would not be passive, quite or still. I would be mouthing off, swearing, screaming, fighting, sitting down and making my arrest as physically difficult for them as possible. Must be the Irish in me? Or is it the Scottish in me? IDK.

Gabby

Long live the UK!

 

[webbouk]

It's called 'resisting arrest' which is a crime in itself, unless you are protesting about climate change issues when apparently it is then acceptable.

You'll have noticed that anyone who goes against the present government's agenda is labelled 'Far Right', again another 'tool' used in Two-tier Kier's armoury against those who object about the way he and his government are bringing the country to it's knees.

 

[Arantor]

I dispute the original position. In fact I dispute most of the positions in this thread so far.

It’s all about perspective. You can read two different news outlets and think you’re reading about two entirely different countries, one of which is a fading power, the other an utter hellhole that barely qualifies as a third world nation, let alone one of the G7.

It’s true that some arrests have happened inappropriately, but I don’t believe it’s anywhere near the “off the rails” implication. But this is nothing new - when I worked in London close to 20 years ago, I had a guy above me who got stopped regularly as part of the then-new stop and search. Apparently he was too nicely dressed for a person of his particular skin colour. But you could easily hear a similar story today about how the country is being taken over.

It’s also true that some of the climate protestors have been arrested, to the point where people who did nothing more than sit down in the middle of a road (no vandalism, no violence) received 4-5 year prison sentences. Which is harsher than burglary in many cases.

As for Kier “bringing the country to its knees”, we were already there after 14 years of being strip-mined by previous governments. I haven’t seen anything wildly interesting from him or his clan of bureaucrats that is in any particular direction. The steps being taken are predictable, trying to keep people across both “sides” on board so he can’t do anything too radical in any direction. There is also considerable inertia in the British system - most actions take months or years before change starts to happen.

I am, however, genuinely surprised - like you - at the passivity. I wonder how bad it has to get for the bottom end of society before they turn. People will only put up with so much for so long, and at some point they will turn. I also think the media has done a stunning job being complicit in making sure the people don’t look behind the curtain too hard.

 

[Mr Lucky]

There is no question that the UK has gone off the rails in terms of arresting people for posts the government doesn’t like.

I saw a few videos of these arrests and was so pissed off I had to walk away. The “officers” doing the arrests were so disgustingly arrogant. I can’t imagine agreeing to police like this.

There is no excuse for the police being arrogant, but then does this apply to all police. A videos of police officers acting in a disgustingly arrogant way is like to be more newsworthy than police just going about their job politely so this could give a wrong impression overall. My worst experiences with police have been with American police, who can also be disgustingly arrogant.

So I wouldn't dispute that some UK police are but it may be useful to post the actual videos anyway as I think there could be something more to it than arresting people for posts the government doesn't like. Surely there has to be an official record of the alleged crime, whether that's on an arrest warrant or a charge sheet and there is not (yet) any law against making a post the government doesn't like.

So if we are going to discuss this, let's see the videos so we can be informed.

 

[JamesBrown]

my question is. Why do Brits allow this and just stand there and get arrested by people with no weapons?

I've got a question for you. Why do you allow nutjobs with guns into schools?

I’m just curious why US citizens are putting up with this? It’s insane IMHO.

 

[JamesBrown]

So my question is. Why do Brits allow this and just stand there and get arrested by people with no weapons?

I've got a question for you. Why are 100,000 Americans dying from drug overdoses every year, largely from the synthetic opioid fentanyl.

I’m just curious why US citizens are putting up with this? It’s insane IMHO.

 

[Arantor]

See also the cost of insulin.

 

[Dixie McCall]

I dispute the original position. In fact I dispute most of the positions in this thread so far.

It’s all about perspective. You can read two different news outlets and think you’re reading about two entirely different countries, one of which is a fading power, the other an utter hellhole that barely qualifies as a third world nation, let alone one of the G7.

It’s true that some arrests have happened inappropriately, but I don’t believe it’s anywhere near the “off the rails” implication. But this is nothing new - when I worked in London close to 20 years ago, I had a guy above me who got stopped regularly as part of the then-new stop and search. Apparently he was too nicely dressed for a person of his particular skin colour. But you could easily hear a similar story today about how the country is being taken over.

It’s also true that some of the climate protestors have been arrested, to the point where people who did nothing more than sit down in the middle of a road (no vandalism, no violence) received 4-5 year prison sentences. Which is harsher than burglary in many cases.

As for Kier “bringing the country to its knees”, we were already there after 14 years of being strip-mined by previous governments. I haven’t seen anything wildly interesting from him or his clan of bureaucrats that is in any particular direction. The steps being taken are predictable, trying to keep people across both “sides” on board so he can’t do anything too radical in any direction. There is also considerable inertia in the British system - most actions take months or years before change starts to happen.

I am, however, genuinely surprised - like you - at the passivity. I wonder how bad it has to get for the bottom end of society before they turn. People will only put up with so much for so long, and at some point they will turn. I also think the media has done a stunning job being complicit in making sure the people don’t look behind the curtain too hard.

Great and honest reply. Thank you.

 

[jeb35]

A lot of cops are like that here in the US as well. The thing with kids bringing guns to school probably will never stop with the way things are here. If we had the power to stop it all the shootings in Chicago alone would be zero. I live just southwest of Chicago about 45 minutes.

 

[Dixie McCall]

It's called 'resisting arrest' which is a crime in itself, unless you are protesting about climate change issues when apparently it is then acceptable.

You'll have noticed that anyone who goes against the present government's agenda is labelled 'Far Right', again another 'tool' used in Two-tier Kier's armoury against those who object about the way he and his government are bringing the country to it's knees.

Yeah same in US. The “resisting arrest” bs needs to be seriously challenged in both countries. What do they expect people to do? Bend over and ask for more? Know what I mean? In videos I’ve seen out of the UK and their word police, I’m struck at how they get these people to actually carry out this blatant tyranny. These word police are worse than the scumbag officials making these laws. I mean what’s going on in these tyrant’s brains to think they are entitled to arrest someone for hurt feelings or “causing someone anxiety.” WTH? Absolute insanity.

 

[Suzanne O]

Oh i see what you're on about.
Resissting arrest has been around for a while.
As i'm from Australia, there was a chinese born protester who got arrested for carrying a plaquard that had something nasty written up about the NSW cops.
He resissted arrest and people were just as outraged as you were.
Solution is to comply with police no matter what. Otherwise they can turn nasty on you.
Saw one guy the other day after getting told off by police get kicked in the nuts.
Obviously you don't want that happening. But that's what happens if you muck up and find out.

 

[Dixie McCall]

I've got a question for you. Why do you allow nutjobs with guns into schools?

I’m just curious why US citizens are putting up with this? It’s insane IMHO.

The US doesn't’”allow” school shooters. lol If you’ll notice this awful trend is fairly uncommon before 1999. Now ask yourself, why schools? I’ll leave it at that - down the rabbit hole.

So why do UK citizens put up with so many horrible stabbings of children? I mean come on. The answer is UK citizens don’t and have no control over citizens nutjobs and little control over rouge bad entities - same in US. Same tragedy different weapon no?

 

[Dixie McCall]

I've got a question for you. Why are 100,000 Americans dying from drug overdoses every year, largely from the synthetic opioid fentanyl.

I’m just curious why US citizens are putting up with this? It’s insane IMHO

Lack of Border Patrol like the EU states, treason, and unconventional warfare. That’s why.

We aren’t tolerating it on a local level except big cities completely controlled by leftists (not traditional libs or cons) Nationally is a total disgrace but the average US citizen isn’t getting arrested for expressing their opinion on the Fentanyl crisis on social media platforms. The word police haven’t arrived here YET.

It’s likely more than 100k nationally and likely in the millions globally since the 80s at least - not just Fent. I have personally narcanned many illegals in my country who brought the stuff over up their rears. How does any government conquer that? Border Control, Border Control

 

[Dixie McCall]

See also the cost of insulin.

It’s fairly inexpensive in US. What’s your point? TY

https://www.goodrx.com/healthcare-access/research/how-much-does-insulin-cost-compare-brands

 

[Dixie McCall]

See also the cost of insulin.

It’s fairly inexpensive in US. What’s your point? T

https://www.goodrx.com/healthcare-access/research/how-much-does-insulin-cost-compare-brands

 

[Mr Lucky]

Attached is a pic of me with two UK fellas . Are these mall cops?

No those look like stripogram cops.

 

[HotRodCarts]

I live just southwest of Chicago about 45 minutes.

Howdy neighbor, I'm about an an hour southwest of Chicago.

 

[Arantor]

It’s fairly inexpensive in US. What’s your point? T

https://www.goodrx.com/healthcare-access/research/how-much-does-insulin-cost-compare-brands

From your post:

Generics have been instrumental in bringing down costs for some patients. Instead of paying over $400 for a package of 5 Humalog KwikPens, for example, patients can now pay around $260 for a package of 5 generic insulin lispro KwikPens.

This doesn’t seem very cheap for something that is medically necessary (though the cost per month fluctuates on need, but we’re still talking about a drug that the consumers of will need for the rest of their lives, and for many, through no fault of their own). But plenty of other nations don’t charge folks who need it, they just make sure they get it.

Just another observation about how different countries behave, and in particular behaviours I’d be quite upset about if they applied to me.

 

[javakhir]

in some years you will open your eyes that mi6 rule the UK & cia rule USA. they gone off rails long time ago! anyway King is alive & monarchy is just for fun! nothing more! Prime ministers can do nothing from word at all! Mi6 controls everything!
with growing UK taxes, many Brits leaving country since 2008
even popular city in Spain living cost 5 times cheaper than London!
several clowns becoming prime ministers & ruin country, that happens with Canada as well.
so discussing politics here won't change anything! waste of time!

 

[Arantor]

with growing UK taxes, many Brits leaving country since 2008

UK population in 2008 was 61.8 million, population in 2024 was 69.1 million. Many might have left but the numbers grew significantly anyway.