[OzzModz] Registration Spaminator Stop Spam Bot Registrations [Deleted]

[Jon12345]

Hey Gerry, how long have you had it for?

 

[gerryvz]

Pretty much since they released it publicly -- mid-October 2019 or so?

Generally seem to get 100-200 attempts per day.

 

[bzcomputers]

Has the effectiveness of this add-on ever been compared directly to using the XenForo built in spam management (anti-spam) capabilities?

Just wondering how much more this add-on protects a site versus using the already available options of Stop Forum Spam, DNS Blacklist, Registration Timer, Akismet and CAPTCHA.

It would be interesting to know how many of the logged registration attempts this add-on records that would have actually been able to register and make a spam post without this add-on being installed.

 

[Jon12345]

I've had mine for a couple of days or so and I am on 250 bots stopped. Think of the mess if they managed to get through!

 

[bzcomputers]

I've had mine for a couple of days or so and I am on 250 bots stopped. Think of the mess if they managed to get through!

Those kind of numbers are what concerns me. They seem extremely high, making me think a XenForo stock installation (without this add-on) is catching most of them already.

Surely not anywhere near all those registration attempts would of been able to register and make a post or else everyone's XenForo forum would be a mess. The actual amount of XenForo forums with spam problems from what I've seen reported here on XenForo.com seems quite low.

 

[Ozzy47]

Has the effectiveness of this add-on ever been compared directly to using the XenForo built in spam management (anti-spam) capabilities?

In a sense, yes. But it does stop all bot registrations where stock XF2 does not. Also this does not get any false positives where using the inbuilt spam options does. To add to that, this ask simplifies the registration form and process.

 

[bzcomputers]

With this add-on installed do you consider the XenForo built in spam options unneeded? or would you recommend them to be kept active if they are already?

 

[Ozzy47]

On my sites, I don't use any of the stock spam trapping options. Other sites still use some, it's good to have sites using different approaches to confuse the botnet admins.

 

[Max Taxable]

Has the effectiveness of this add-on ever been compared directly to using the XenForo built in spam management (anti-spam) capabilities?

Just wondering how much more this add-on protects a site versus using the already available options of Stop Forum Spam, DNS Blacklist, Registration Timer, Akismet and CAPTCHA.

It would be interesting to know how many of the logged registration attempts this add-on records that would have actually been able to register and make a spam post without this add-on being installed.

Some of the above can block legitimate humans and if not, most of them require proof of humanship. Hoops to jump through. Puzzles, questions, timers, etc. Spaminator works alone and blocks nobody, it simply doesn't allow accounts to be created via automation. It also plays nice with all of the other anti-spam miscellany.

It's an additional weapon. Another arrow in the quiver. If you don't like having potential new members getting annoyed by captchas, puzzles and the like, and if you've ever had SFS block legitimate people, you CAN turn those off and be just fine. But it's personal preference. People should do what's best for them and their site.

 

[gerryvz]

I continue to use the "standard" XF anti-spam, together with the Ozzinator-Spaminator add-on.

 

[Maa]

As I said before, this most certainly has to be human spammers. Out of dozens of sites running the addon and hundreds of thousands bots stopped, only your site is still getting that amount of spam. I honestly think you are targeted by some sort of spam group.

I appreciate what you are saying but I had 29 threads that were all spam today too, they're all coming from Indian/Pakistani IP addresses too. Given some of the timeframes the threads are posted - I don't believe they're doing it manually, I highly doubt someone at 4am in India will just want to spam the site. Mind you, the mods have stopped a lot of Russian/Chinese spam as stated previously, it's just these pesky Indian/Pakistani spammers!

 

[gerryvz]

Over the past week or so, I have had 5-6 Pakistani spammers register (though they have not posted spam). They seem to be getting through the countermeasures. Since last October, I only had perhaps 2 of these total. Over the last week, it's ticked up dramatically to about one per day. And these are automated, not manual spammers.

 

[Max Taxable]

they're all coming from Indian/Pakistani IP addresses

I have had 5-6 Pakistani spammers register

I've started a conversation with you guys about this.

 

[⭐ Alex ⭐]

I've found a bit of a discrepancy with the claim:

We reject the silly term "honeypots" anyway, and prefer to call the Spaminator checks, land mines - they aren't told about them, don't see them, and are going to step on them!

Specifically the part, they aren't told about them, don't see them. I was expecting some sort of an active server-side behaviour check like recaptcha uses now, because

The [OzzModz] Registration Spaminator injects false fields and checkboxes into the registration form which browsers don't render

means a spam bot is free to determine how a webpage should be rendered in order to fill out only what a browser would see.

Should I pay $30 and generate a proof of concept of an exploit that will kill this protection?

 

[Ozzy47]

Any spam measurements can be defeated if specifically targeted, no need to waste your money.

 

[W.D]

Being sick with bots of late I decided to take the plunge and buy Ozzy47's addon. Knowing his skills from the vBulletin days I feel this'll be it for the spam issues we've faced the past few weeks.

Thank you for making this Ozzy!

 

[gerryvz]

I'm pushing 14,000 defeated spam registrations since October 2019 !! One of the good @ozzy47 mods, for sure. Along with the @Snozzy mod that displays the country flags.

 

[JoyFreak]

I'm pushing 14,000 defeated spam registrations since October 2019 !! One of the good @ozzy47 mods, for sure. Along with the @Snozzy mod that displays the country flags.

It’s @Snog

 

[Ozzy47]

Due to the tragedy everyone in the world is facing, this product is reduced by 20%. The price is updated and there is no need for a coupon.

 

[Jake70]

Hey @ozzy47 I purchased this today ans installed however i cant see the logs anywhere, I did have a good read through this post but still cant see the logs, the permissions are set correctly and i have looked in the forums tab and all others but noting there, its not in test mode.
Any Idea?