Mobile Suite for XenForo [Deleted]

[TMA]

turnkeymobileapps submitted a new resource:

Push Notifications Without an App for XenForo - Web Push by TMA

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[silence]

What's the difference between this and OneSignal integrations?

 

[Alpha1]

One Signal supports Chrome, but sells your members information.

 

[TMA]

@silence This service is fundamentally different in a few important ways; for one, you can control everything on a usergroup and user-upgrade level and the plugin looks and works like a plugin built for that platform, it is deeply integrated unlike a OS integration.

Another is that this plugin/service fills in the gaps for situations that do not support web push (for example, non-https sites and iPhones normally cannot use web push). We can scale these limitations by detecting such cases and prompting them to receive messages via SMS instead.

SMS delivery credits can be sold to members at a price of the admin's choosing and they can make a profit on the spread. Last but not least, we do not collect or sell you or your members' contact & browsing data to third parties as a main business model, while OS does (edit: as @Alfa1 says).

 

[Alpha1]

Out of the box PUSH notifications are not very useful for guests, but this has a lot of potential. Please consider to add:

Watch functions for guests.
Similar to the Watch function for members this would allow guests to subscribe to content.

 

[OakleyForum]

Can you confirm which mobile browsers/platforms this supports?

 

[TMA]

Can you confirm which mobile browsers/platforms this supports?

All of them. For the browsers/cases that don't support native web push (iOS, IE, and non-SSL forums), the plugin can use SMS messages.

 

[RobinHood]

Costs for SMS? What powers the SMS, Twilio? If so do we buy credits direct from the source or is it through you?

Very promising this. I can see it as a very good monetisation path. As long as new users and guests can subscribe (and unsub) quickly and easily like with OneSignal, you could dish out x notifications per month to everyone and require a user upgrade if they want more or unlimited.

 

[OakleyForum]

All of them. For the browsers/cases that don't support native web push (iOS, IE, and non-SSL forums), the plugin can use SMS messages.

When you say iOS is it iPhones as a whole or can iPhone users receive notifications via Chrome?

 

[TMA]

Costs for SMS? What powers the SMS, Twilio? If so do we buy credits direct from the source or is it through you?

Very promising this. I can see it as a very good monetisation path. As long as new users and guests can subscribe (and unsub) quickly and easily like with OneSignal, you could dish out x notifications per month to everyone and require a user upgrade if they want more or unlimited.

See here under Web Push > SMS; you buy credits from us, and it works exactly the way you describe (you specify how many credits/messages each user upgrade grants the buyer's account). Unlimited isn't possible, SMS messages have a hard cost

When you say iOS is it iPhones as a whole or can iPhone users receive notifications via Chrome?

Chrome on iOS/iPhones is just a reskinned Safari, so it can't use Chrome notifications. Normally that would be the end of it, but with our service iPhones can receive notifications via SMS.

 

[RobinHood]

Nice, so what's the SMS price per notification or per pack?

I get that they're not cheap, hence why a dedicated app will still probably still the best bet on the long run for forums?

At over 100 SMS per dollar, I imagine the SMS bill for a heavy SMS notification user could add up quick, making subscription a requirement.

I wonder what the relation between additional adclicks due to SMS/push reengagement vs the cost of the sms is.

 

[TMA]

Fees vary depending on a number of different factors, please direct your inquiry to order@turnkeymobileapps.com along with what countries you want to deliver SMS messages to.

 

[Freelancer]

Does this push ALL alerts, no matter from which add-on..? Or is this only XF Core like posts, messages, convos?

 

[TMA]

Does this push ALL alerts, no matter from which add-on..? Or is this only XF Core like posts, messages, convos?

All alerts. Users can then filter what to receive using the regular alert preferences (by default, they receive everything).

 

[RobinHood]

To me it would make sense for the admin to be able to set the default alerts for a subscription, especially if it was costing the admins money.

I wouldn't want to be paying for SMS alerts that someone's content had been like. But I'd be happy to pay for alerts the promoted engagement such as replies to PMs, when their content and their threads had been replied to.

What are the factors that effect fees?
If you have a global audience, how is it calculated? Did you have to declare the server as being hosted in one country and get charged fees according to the user's cell number origin in relation to that?

 

[Freelancer]

^^^^^^ That would be interesting to know... because I have almost 100 add-ons and every add-on has like 5-10 alerts and if a user opts to let all those alerts be send by SMS, it will cost me a lot of money...

 

[gfc]

Sadly not yet safari on iOs.

 

[Kintaro]

Sadly not yet safari on iOs.

you need an app for that

 

[TMA]

turnkeymobileapps updated Mobile/Web Push Notifications Without an App for XenForo with a new update entry:

Safari Push Shortlink

In order to work around a limitation with Safari Web Push Bundle Ids, all notification links are automatically shortened. There is no update required for this to take effect.

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[TMA]

Sadly not yet safari on iOs.

you need an app for that

Actually, in the current version, you can receive SMS messages on iOS. We will be replacing this in the next update with Facebook Messenger messages since those are free and SMS messages are not, and we'll add a different monetization scheme, more on this soon.