It´s time for some official statement what is going on behind xenforo

[The Dark Wizard]

I of course decided to play the game and have yet to get shot, but I understood those when I first came here.

 

[Robbo]

Of course they could take legal action, they probably wouldn't unless you grow big enough though.

I'm in no way, shape or form advocating forking - just explaining the implications.

Oh I mean from the ground up. In PHP 5.4

 

[mrGTB]

I of course decided to play the game and have yet to get shot, but I understood those when I first came here.

Are you taking drugs?

 

[Forsaken]

Of course they could take legal action, they probably wouldn't unless you grow big enough though.

I'm in no way, shape or form advocating forking - just explaining the implications.

The backup plan for my sites in case something happened is to fork for personal use, for sites that already have a license.

Otherwise, my partner and I would just go back and restart our own forum system which is what we had planned before XenForo.

 

[The Dark Wizard]

Are you taking drugs?

Are you telling me that you came here thinking something else? I am fully aware of the pending lawsuit and even I can speculate as to what's going on behind the scenes but I'm still here and I will continue to 'blindly" give my money to this company until the very last day in the hopes that they win the lawsuit. If not then I run out of cookies.

Coming here expecting more then what you paid. . . well you would have to be on drugs for that.

 

[jmurrayhead]

Otherwise, my partner and I would just go back and restart our own forum system which is what we had planned before XenForo.

I was planning to do the same before I heard of XenForo.

 

[we_are_borg]

No, it's people being nosy. Nothing else
What 'right' do you have to know why he resigned (or was let go)? Hey, here's a thought... If you want to know ask him.
The fact is that nobody is owed anything of an explanation here. Snoops and drama queens are going to make what they can out of everything here, but the reality is that this forum owes you nothing


Nonsense, it's called smart business.

In my day I've seen big board admins come and go. I've even had to kick my share of them out when they got power hungry (not that I'm saying Brogan was). In the end, it's always better to keep internal matters internal. Nobody wins with a huge gossip fest. Nobody wins when accusations fly (which inevitably happens when these things come out), nobody wins when people take sides.

Brogan is gone from the position he was in. He was overworked, which probably led to the decision. What actually caused the decision? Only a handful of people know, and only a handful of people need to know. Anything else is just rumor and conjecture. We're not owed an explanation, we're not owed a reason whatsoever

Where not asking what is wrong with Kier, Mike or Ashley the only thing we can do is hope they are all right and that their families are all right, that the end of that discussion.

What people are asking is how Xenforo is doing as a business, is development on time if not can we have a new e.t.a and so on. Many people have invested Xenforo websites but they need to know what is happening that is whats being asked.


As for supporting Xenforo the easiest way is buying licenses but many all ready did, what you can do is extra add-ons that are supported by Xenforo see what people really want and collect funds in a start-up project let them pledge money that money is then for development. For example (including money needed) a CMS you need 15000 dollars (if collected more you can expand the parameters of the system) people that give money get the CMS for free and 2 years renew, Xenforo get the cash for development. The drawback is that some one need to plan the project and make the plans in conjunction with the people that fund the project and Xenforo. Would be interesting because you can get lots of cash in and if it works you can repeat it for other add-ons, as long as Xenforo develops it.

 

[we_are_borg]

But if it went under would this not make it legal to fork it?

No it would not be legal, if something might happen the copyright will pass to some one else even if Xenforo would bankrupt the copyright will be used to get funds in. The only legal way is when the copyright holder makes it Open Source under one of the licenses that can be used for that.

 

[guiltar]

Errr if it went down.. fork?

XF is not open source.

No it would not be legal, if something might happen the copyright will pass to some one else even if Xenforo would bankrupt the copyright will be used to get funds in. The only legal way is when the copyright holder makes it Open Source under one of the licenses that can be used for that.

I've already thought about it and found solution. If it completely went under I wouldn't move on other forum since there is still no alternative as well coded.
I would create "addon" which rewrites needed core files, modifies database and it will work only with last version.
Officially it would be addon but really it would be fork...

 

[Naatan]

I've already thought about it and found solution. If it completely went under I wouldn't move on other forum since there is still no alternative as well coded.
I would create "addon" which rewrites needed core files, modifies database and it will work only with last version.
Officially it would be addon but really it would be fork...

Yes but you could only legally distribute it to existing clients, and as distribution would stop the only way new "clients" could come aboard is by pirating it.

Let's just hope it will never come to that.

 

[guiltar]

Yes but you could only legally distribute it to existing clients, and as distribution would stop the only way new "clients" could come aboard is by pirating it.

Let's just hope it will never come to that.

Of course we hope

And yes it can be distributed only for licensed customers. It doesn't seem a big problem since license is unlimited.

 

[we_are_borg]

I've already thought about it and found solution. If it completely went under I wouldn't move on other forum since there is still no alternative as well coded.
I would create "addon" which rewrites needed core files, modifies database and it will work only with last version.
Officially it would be addon but really it would be fork...

Would not matter even if you do it like you say because the license you have now will be revoked so you can't even develop for it because you have no license. Second if copyright is transferred to some one else you can get sued your self even if they do not have a solid case the costs will be to high.

 

[guiltar]

Would not matter even if you do it like you say because the license you have now will be revoked so you can't even develop for it because you have no license. Second if copyright is transferred to some one else you can get sued your self even if they do not have a solid case the costs will be to high.

The licence can't be revoked since in agreement is said that it is unlimited. If copyright is transfered nothing happens since it would be addon for 1.1.2.

 

[SchmitzIT]

I was planning to do the same before I heard of XenForo.

Same here, actually. I attempted something on ASP.NET way back in the days, and back then gave up on it. However, ASP.NET has matured since, and I've learnt a lot more as well.Just out of curiosity, what platform were you considering?

 

[jmurrayhead]

Same here, actually. I attempted something on ASP.NET way back in the days, and back then gave up on it. However, ASP.NET has matured since, and I've learnt a lot more as well.Just out of curiosity, what platform were you considering?

The sad part is that there aren't really any good forum solutions based on the .NET framework. I think Web Forms would be terrible to try and implement a good forum solution, but then, the MVC framework came out, which I was pretty set on using if I ever did create my own.

 

[Digital Doctor]

I've used Community Server (ASP based) and it's a HOG to host and not that good. We had our own dedicated server and we eventually disabled searching as it was killing the server.

 

[SchmitzIT]

The sad part is that there aren't really any good forum solutions based on the .NET framework. I think Web Forms would be terrible to try and implement a good forum solution, but then, the MVC framework came out, which I was pretty set on using if I ever did create my own.

Aye. I was going to try using ASP.NET using Telerik controls, but with MVC out, that would probably be my way as well. Besides, Telerik also has MVC components

 

[jmurrayhead]

Aye. I was going to try using ASP.NET using Telerik controls, but with MVC out, that would probably be my way as well. Besides, Telerik also has MVC components

Indeed, they do, although, I probably would have developed the controls on my own when I was considering it at the time.

 

[Adam Howard]

I know for a fact, that XenForo is being directly attacked by the competition and some of these "members" here are only here to start drama and bring a negative view upon XenForo. And I fear some people are wrongfully buying into that negative view. It's simple propaganda designed to discourage the community.

I also am well aware that some people just can never be satisfied no matter what you tell them. But for those whom maybe a little bit more willing to listen to reason.

• XenForo 1.2 will be ready when it is ready
• Commentary updates do not speed up actual production
• XenForo staff have gone "hush" in public for legal reasons; its called being responsible
• Support is answered via tickets in a professional and quick manner, the forums are secondary & primarily community driven
• If the above reply is not sanctifying, keep re-reading until it is. Nothing you say will change it.

If I was staff, this is where I would lock the thread. And any future thread relating to this continued subject, would get a link to this post as the official explanation and then also locked. And if you didn't like that... Oh well.

 

[Andrej]

Commentary updates do not speed up actual production

OK, ask yourself one question. Did we ask for speeding up the development? No, certainly not. We ask for a simple update because the current events are rather worrying.