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Internet Surveillance Bill, WORSE Than SOPA: Explained

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Adam Howard, Feb 19, 2012.

  1. Adam Howard

    Adam Howard Well-Known Member

    Another law that started with the best of attentions, gone completely wrong.

    No rights
    No warrant
    No appeal
    No privacy
    No defense
    No information
    No right to sue

    And you'll be add to a terrorist watch list if you do the following things, which will become / made illegal...

    Proxy illegal
    VPN illegal
    Online Privacy illegal
    Online Encryption illegal

    Sponsored by the same man who sponsored SOPA and Protect IP.

    Government's policy is... "You have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide" :confused:
  2. Slavik

    Slavik XenForo Moderator Staff Member


    Worse than SOPA? Right because it effects me in the UK how?

    Wait it doesn't.
  3. Adam Howard

    Adam Howard Well-Known Member

    UK = 52nd State of America.

    USA: I don't like "john doe" because of X and he said Y .... Get`em
    UK: But it's not illegal here. They've done nothing wrong here.
    USA: DO IT B**ch
    UK: OK Boss.

    I mildly joke, but our government seems to think they police the world and can arrest anyone and obtain information on anyone, globally. Not an American? Not a problem.

    I actually am waiting for someone to prove them wrong.... Please...do.
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  4. Divvens

    Divvens Well-Known Member

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  5. Lucas

    Lucas Well-Known Member

    These new bills seem like they will never stop. Can we get a new generation of politicians please? How long is it gonna take? We need to wipe em out before they spread their ****ty logics to the young ones. The world is a freaking disaster, god darnit.
  6. Adam Howard

    Adam Howard Well-Known Member

    Ron Paul. 30 year of supporting your freedom, your rights, and The Constitution of The United States.

    Mitt Romney and Obama both supported, until it was unpopular to do so... NDAA, SOPA, Protect IP, and so far, this news bill as well.
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  7. Forsaken

    Forsaken Well-Known Member

    Yes, because all the United States (One of the most diverse countries in the world) needs is a racist and homophobe.

    He'll protect your rights as long as he agrees with your lifestyle, religion, color of your skin or creed.
  8. Adam Howard

    Adam Howard Well-Known Member

    Ron Paul isn't a racist.... They have even proven he wasn't the author of the letters what were printed years ago. By finding the real author who admitted he wrote them.

    Ironically, the mass media does not seem to report this (truth)........... Now let's get back to the more important issues.
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  9. steven s

    steven s Well-Known Member

    So the purpose of these threads is really to support Ron Paul?
  10. Sadik B

    Sadik B Well-Known Member

    These bills are now getting amusing.... What's the idea here? let's bring as many bills to curb the net as possible and soon people will get tired of protesting them and start ignoring and we can pass a few?

    And for the record, Ron Paul isn't a racist or a homophobe, but as pointed out, I don't think discussing him was the intention of OP.
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  11. MGSteve

    MGSteve Well-Known Member

    Well, that's a lot of home workers screwed then! lol

    I'm glad I don't live in the US right now, I'll never complain about the UK Government again (unless they try and pull any crap like this!)
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  12. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Can we keep to the thread subject please?
    As the new forum rules state:
    Debate the bill by all means, but lets try and avoid partisan politics which will result in the thread being closed.
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  13. Adam Howard

    Adam Howard Well-Known Member

    I sadly believe so. Most Americans get desensitized or basically lose the will to fight for the long hall, if you continue to press and force an issue. Which in my opinion makes most Americans, wimpy little "b**ches" if all it takes to defeat our values, morals, ethics, standards, and our rights is to keep pushing until we willingly give up.

    I didn't start this thread to support Ron Paul, no. But it is a byproduct statement of a list of politicians, who have never (short term or long term) supported any bill or law, that would remove the rights of citizens or further placed sanctions upon the general population. We're going to really need more leaders & people within our government who will fight such policies & never suggest one of their own which would cause the same or similar affects.

    Of course we're also going to need more citizens to wake up to such matters & willing to appose such for the long halls.

    How many unconstitutional laws can America pass? Answer: As many as we let them.

    What bothers me is this bill did start out with the best of attentions. Why couldn't it be kept as such?
  14. Anthony Parsons

    Anthony Parsons Well-Known Member

    Because even America realises it has little to no control over the www, just like every other country acknowledges... laws suddenly become grey and fuzzy due to constantly, and so easily, crossing country borders via the www. Jurisdictions are hazy when using the www, it's getting ridonkulous! :D

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