Lucas
Well-known member
That's usually what happens when everyone gets excited and also wants to be 'be in it' for the fun, sigh. Everyone needs to be a sensation here.This thread has gone from entertaining to pathetic.
That's usually what happens when everyone gets excited and also wants to be 'be in it' for the fun, sigh. Everyone needs to be a sensation here.This thread has gone from entertaining to pathetic.
You UK guys really get your panties twisted over fair use, don't you?
It was a funny prank - stop worrying yourselves with legal ramifications. There are none.
(Meant in a funny, jabbing way. Not in a mean way. Wasn't sure how it would be taken after I re-read it.)
My post wasn't concerned with legalities; the OP took the moral high ground of "pranking" the other party for taking his smilies and bandwidth without permission (great trick, I've done it myself, as have many others).
However, I just felt that he lost some of that ground by then taking XenForo's name/brand without permission (especially with such a poor choice of wording [IMHO of course ])!
I understand people are pissed off with IB. I realise XF could be so much more without the overheads of fighting the lawsuit. But what gives the OP the right to use XF's name? To create a seemingly XF sponsored defacement of an Internet Brands web site? Did anyone stop to think how that would reflect on the XenForo company and team? Does it look very professional? Was this action supported by the XenForo principles?
Perhaps other people don't see it the same way I do, I don't know, but I'd rather see people be supportive of XenForo by helping answer pre-sales questions, give other customers support, and talk positively about it in their sites and blogs - than take-up-arms against IB on XF's behalf (that's really the job of the XF company).
I realise it was a prank and intended as a bit of fun - I just didn't find the choice of device a particularly suitable one.
My post wasn't concerned with legalities; the OP took the moral high ground of "pranking" the other party for taking his smilies and bandwidth without permission (great trick, I've done it myself, as have many others).
However, I just felt that he lost some of that ground by then taking XenForo's name/brand without permission (especially with such a poor choice of wording [IMHO of course ])!
I understand people are pissed off with IB. I realise XF could be so much more without the overheads of fighting the lawsuit. But what gives the OP the right to use XF's name? To create a seemingly XF sponsored defacement of an Internet Brands web site? Did anyone stop to think how that would reflect on the XenForo company and team? Does it look very professional? Was this action supported by the XenForo principles?
Perhaps other people don't see it the same way I do, I don't know, but I'd rather see people be supportive of XenForo by helping answer pre-sales questions, give other customers support, and talk positively about it in their sites and blogs - than take-up-arms against IB on XF's behalf (that's really the job of the XF company).
I realise it was a prank and intended as a bit of fun - I just didn't find the choice of device a particularly suitable one.
This is basically what I was trying to say when I commented earlier - while I understand the "why" behind what he did, I don't think the "how"was really appropriate.Agreed. it had nothing to do with XF, and makes this forum the product a mockery which is a damn shame.
My post wasn't concerned with legalities; the OP took the moral high ground of "pranking" the other party for taking his smilies and bandwidth without permission (great trick, I've done it myself, as have many others).
However, I just felt that he lost some of that ground by then taking XenForo's name/brand without permission (especially with such a poor choice of wording [IMHO of course ])!
I understand people are pissed off with IB. I realise XF could be so much more without the overheads of fighting the lawsuit. But what gives the OP the right to use XF's name? To create a seemingly XF sponsored defacement of an Internet Brands web site? Did anyone stop to think how that would reflect on the XenForo company and team? Does it look very professional? Was this action supported by the XenForo principles?
Perhaps other people don't see it the same way I do, I don't know, but I'd rather see people be supportive of XenForo by helping answer pre-sales questions, give other customers support, and talk positively about it in their sites and blogs - than take-up-arms against IB on XF's behalf (that's really the job of the XF company).
I realise it was a prank and intended as a bit of fun - I just didn't find the choice of device a particularly suitable one.
Would it have been such a major issue if it was a phpBB site? Would it have been worth trolling on their forum too?Some of you are taking this way too far. They stole his images. Who cares what he did to them. The point is he got his revenge the way he wanted to. They set themselves up so I have no pity for the IB site. I find it lucky that he did what he did....he could have replaced everything with really big porn images like I would have done.
You really think so?Site A is hot linking site B....it is always worth trolling site A. Leave the names out, who cares, yeah it would have been worth it if it was phpbb (or smf, burning board, vanilla, VB, etc, etc, etc, etc!).
Hard to tell which bashing threads are allowed and which aren't.As Mike and Brogan would say:
"This thread has run it's course" CLOSED
While I agree an email would have been a better action, I don't necessarily see anything wrong with the prank, but more with the content of the prank. They shouldn't have 'involved' XenForo in the situation, and should have kept it limited to CAD/IB being thieves.Come on Anthony, I remember you to be a much more reasonable and intelligent person. What happened to you?
IB likely had no knowlege of the hotlinking. They have no reason to steal bandwidth from a small forum owner. How would they be maliciously affecting a Xenforo customer? Give me a break. I said it before.. My guess is the original owner linked to those smiles because he liked them, and IB bought the site and didnt check the smile links. That is something I could see myself doing as well. Its also something that could have likely been cleared up with 1 single email to IB.
Its comments like yours, along with stupid pranks like this, that make Xenforo look like a software community of immature and spoiled little kids. THAT kind of thing negatively affects the credibility of Xenforo software around the web.
IB likely had no knowlege of the hotlinking...
Of course, I could point out that at least IB remembers to renew their domain names on time...
I can confirm this as well.And I can point out all the known issues Namecheap has had with alerts and auto-renew recently. Nearly losing some of my more valuable domains due to them not sending out email alerts (I own over 300 domains, so 'remembering to renew them' isn't exactly possible) has made me look into moving away to another registrar. Auto-renew isn't something you'd expect to fail. Did it suck, sure. Was it incompetence or part of some vast conspiracy of XenForo failing? Not at all.
It was also pointed out that IB and IPB both rely on auto-renew as well .
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