I purchased a VBulletin license back in 2002, our forum has been running on VBulletin ever since then, so 8 years as of September this year. And in all those years, before IB took over the Vbulletin brand, I was happy, very happy with Vbulletin, it was a rock solid product, had great support and the pricing was reasonable for such a professional product. Then came Internet Brands, the borg of the website/forum world and for the first time in 8 years, I have absolutely no idea where to go. I truly believe that ever since Internet brands took over, the product has gone down hill ever since, it was released to early and if anything, is still a beta quality product. It's the first time in the 8 years I've run a forum that I haven't upgraded right away and a year? after release, VB 4.0.7 still feels like a beta build of what once used to be a quality, professional solution. I feel sad, sad that the notorious Internet brands' reputation of destroying communities/sites/forums, happens to infact, be true after all. Vbulletin, "The most powerful forum software available", I believe that was the case, 1-2 years ago.