How do you handle members who use AI in their posts?

I know he's using AI to make it, but it sounds like the problem is low-effort posting more than whether or not AI was used. It's important for people, whether it's in person or on a forum, to "read the room" and interact with others in a way that meets the norms of the place they're in, and obviously the AI summary stuff isn't doing that on your photography forum so it comes off as spammy. Maybe you could communicate general expectations like:
  • Avoid bullet points and excessive formatting
  • Use your own words to describe your photo
There's probably a lot of people out there using AI and some of it feels natural and other times it's super obvious slop and trying to draw the line somewhere to avoid to latter is tough for us admins. I am dealing with a similar situation myself where some of the AI-assisted content members are making is fantastic while other members are filling my queues with long-winded half-baked AI stuff that doesn't make sense for my forum and I'm like "did you even read this before you posted it?" There's got to be some sort of standards of quality. It's a forum for connecting members, not a personal dump site for mass-generated "content." Right?
 
StarArmy said:
I know he's using AI to make it, but it sounds like the problem is low-effort posting more than whether or not AI was used. It's important for people, whether it's in person or on a forum, to "read the room" and interact with others in a way that meets the norms of the place they're in, and obviously the AI summary stuff isn't doing that on your photography forum so it comes off as spammy. Maybe you could communicate general expectations like:
  • Avoid bullet points and excessive formatting
  • Use your own words to describe your photo
There's probably a lot of people out there using AI and some of it feels natural and other times it's super obvious slop and trying to draw the line somewhere to avoid to latter is tough for us admins. I am dealing with a similar situation myself where some of the AI-assisted content members are making is fantastic while other members are filling my queues with long-winded half-baked AI stuff that doesn't make sense for my forum and I'm like "did you even read this before you posted it?" There's got to be some sort of standards of quality. It's a forum for connecting members, not a personal dump site for mass-generated "content." Right?
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I agree, it is low effort. It's lazy. It only takes a few good prompts to have AI write something that is not that obviously AI.

Anyway, I'm working on a thread for the natives now, explaining that they need to make their intros and captions dissimilar to what they post on other forums.
 
Levina said:
don't know if this is smart or not. It might drive that member from my site, which would be bad as my forum is small and he posts a lot of content every day.
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I’d be up front and let him know what you are doing and why.
 
@Levina with 131 members, it's a miracle that any active users are posting in your forum, and don't worry, they're using AI.
 
Ricsca said:
@Levina with 131 members, it's a miracle that any active users are posting in your forum, and don't worry, they're using AI.
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Well, aren't you uplifting...

My forum is just one year old but my members and I go way back and the social aspect is strong in my little community. They are not using AI, except for one of them, since recently and only to provide some background info for some of his images.

Yes, my forum is very small. It's just one year old and every forum has to start somewhere, but I still have about 40 active members daily and they post anywhere between 110 and 200 posts per day. So not so bad. My problem was Google not indexing us. I recently found the problem, made big changes to my site and now Google is fully indexing us. I am confident we can now grow.
 
Firstly,
Take a look at why you're allowing just anyone on your forum.
Not all members are legit. Stop letting the spammers, scammers and AI bot post on your forum.

Secondly,
Make sure that they aren't a bunch of trolls just trying to poke the bear. If that's the case then use the boot button wisely. Draw that line in the sand and put an end to it.
If you have AI on your forum and it looks like AI Slop you need to stop that straight away.

With my own forum i have a group of people on there who are legit people and not somebody posting AI slop all the time.
We have strong rules telling them that while AI is allowed we don't want every post to have it in there.

We had somebody post up AI images and some of the images were pretty gross. So we made a rule saying no gross imagery.
 
2faroffroad said:
How do you stop them?
Recaptchia doesnt slow them down.
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Cloudflare is a good start - country blocking, ASN blocking, rules to challenge various paths they are hitting on the site, country challenging. It doesn't stop all of them but it stops the vast majority. And before they even reach the server.
 
2faroffroad said:
How do you stop them?
Recaptchia doesnt slow them down.
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Alvin63 said:
Cloudflare is a good start - country blocking, ASN blocking, rules to challenge various paths they are hitting on the site, country challenging. It doesn't stop all of them but it stops the vast majority. And before they even reach the server.
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As usual Ms. O. has completely misunderstood the topic of the thread she is posting to, posts something not at all aligned to the thread topic and people replying to her support the complete derailing of the thread. If you look at the thread topic it reads:

How do you handle members who use AI in their posts?

So it is not about stopping scraping bots and not about identifying spammers and neither about strategies agains spammers signing up but about regular forum members that use AI within their postings and this way undermine the human aspect of forums as well as poisoning the content quality with loads of AI slop of questionable quality.

I don't think that Cloudflare, ASN blocking, challenging paths or country blocks do anything to deal with the issue - they target a completely different problem that is already discussed in a lot of threads. This one has a different topic and one that is quite interesting. Please stop to derail it into something completely different.
 
Its now possible to read the LLM watermark in the text, so it should be possible to show the user a notice that the post is detected as AI generated and that such posts are labeled as AI generated and generally not trusted by people and search engines. Or even block it completely or send to moderation.

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Since the original question was posted, we now have an AI policy. Working progress but something along these lines so far:

Artificial Intelligence and bots.​

  • Compose your own posts. We want to hear from you on this forum. Anyone can get answers from Gemini, etc but this forum is for human opinions, human answers and human discourse. members want to know that it is you they are talking to.
  • Using some AI to partially help write (e.g. translation) is permitted, but blatantly robot posts may be removed by staff.
  • AI or bot generated text and/or images in posts that is purely for illustration purposes is OK, but must be included in spoiler tags and must be declared as such.
  • Answering someone's question by getting an AI response and posting it as an answer. Again, we believe people want to hear other peoples' actual experience and learned knowledge.
  • Posting an AI generated article, or substantial part thereof.
  • Notwithstanding the above, like many websites and forums with user generated content, we may make use of AI moderation resources via Sightengine NSFW content detection. This is used purely on images and grants no rights over your content to Sightengine beyond their specific service provision as outlined in their privacy policy.
  • As far as possible we aim block AI training bots and other bots apart from those required for search engine listing.
 
I have something similar regarding Images - if they are going to post an AI image it must be labelled as AI and in a particular section of the forum
 
AI generated images are banned on my forum.

And I asked people to write their own texts, but they don't, not always, not when they are describing an "iconic church" or some "historically iconic landmark" or whatever. AI text is so easy to detect with its grand adjectives.

So I add a discreet admin note below such texts:

Admin Note: AI assisted text
 
Ricsca said:
It's already a miracle that users post in forums. I'd say don't overwhelm them with unnecessary rules...
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And in my mind that one thing was the beginning of the downfall of forums.

People know there are rules and etiquette expectations. But when they are constantly reminded of what not to post, where to post, how to post, what to post, how long between posts, and how they should behave, well, that drives a few away.

It's not like everyone wants anarchy, but on the other side, they sure don't want another overbearing mom.
 
CTS said:
And in my mind that one thing was the beginning of the downfall of forums.

People know there are rules and etiquette expectations. But when they are constantly reminded of what not to post, where to post, how to post, what to post, how long between posts, and how they should behave, well, that drives a few away.

It's not like everyone wants anarchy, but on the other side, they sure don't want another overbearing mom.
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Social media are not forums. They're filled with boring, ad filled, scam artists, who love to be creepy bots.
Forums are quieter and human controlled.
 
CTS said:
And in my mind that one thing was the beginning of the downfall of forums.

People know there are rules and etiquette expectations. But when they are constantly reminded of what not to post, where to post, how to post, what to post, how long between posts, and how they should behave, well, that drives a few away.

It's not like everyone wants anarchy, but on the other side, they sure don't want another overbearing mom.
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smallwheels said:
Easy ;-) :

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Nice!

Here' a problem though...
We have a couple members who have low accuracy.
This may start fights so the emoji needs to only be shown to administrators, i think.
 
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