Max Fridman
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Its not a perfect build or demo, but Ive been toying around with UX for XenForo, this is where Im at right now: https://gaming.audent.io/community/
Cool UI.X2 redesign is looking promising lol!
Its not a perfect build or demo, but Ive been toying around with UX for XenForo, this is where Im at right now: https://gaming.audent.io/community/
But expensive at $1000 yearCool UI.X2 redesign is looking promising lol!
Cool UI.X2 redesign is looking promising lol!
Such as?XF needs a major change and that means breaking away from traditional forums and doing something we haven't seen before
Might need some major performance improvements (hint: pagespeed mobile score is bad)Cool UI.X2 redesign is looking promising lol!
Might need some major performance improvements (hint: pagespeed mobile score is bad)
But expensive at $1000 year
Such as?
Literally, not true.literally 3 devs have a market monopoly on Xenforo (Xon, Siropu, OzzModz) for nice addons
Ultimately, there is just too much CSS from allowing just about anything to be customized. I wrote a bit about this recently, but we are waiting for 2.3. Im confident XenForo will improve the default theme and such so the era of needing a UI.X or any framework won't make sense except for people who want that very intricate detail and control. The goal is a perfect 100 in lighthouse, and it is possible with heavy caching and such. But its a number of factors, not just theme. Having a build process to reduce font awesome andsuch as what @Kirby built is absolutely a must. But even with UI.X you could turn off the Javascript features, the avatars, reduce your node list, stop loading fonts in, etc. etc. and with caching we can see a 95 score in lighthouse.Might need some major performance improvements (hint: pagespeed mobile score is bad)
Like I said, it comes down to the industry you're in and what specifically your forum brings that is appealing or has its own uniqueness.
Then someone arrives and say "but we don't need this because my business forums that talks about insurances and is followed by 70 years old people is doing great!".
The goal is a perfect 100 in lighthouse, and it is possible with heavy caching
If you can make that back then yes. Why no. What TH offers. That should be in core, or at least half of it. Every niche is different, and I agree that XF devs can't fulfil everyone's needs and wishes, however, they can improve the forum to be more user friendly and appealing not only to admins, but to users as well, as they are the main audience.For sure. 83$ monthly is a steep price for forum owners this days
Dude, you're missing the point entirely, at least my point. Forget about however you want to define "fad," which you seem to be stuck on. The main thing is you CAN'T compete with them, not in any meaningful way. Why are we even discussing that as some kind of possibility? You can still find a way to be successful, with a little luck, but you are not going to "compete" with FB or Reddit, etc., certainly not with a ready-made cms or forum software that you spent less than $200 on.Everything dies eventually. Sears lasted 100 years. Would you have told mom and pop department stores to just wait 100 years for the sears "fad" to pass?
I don't know about you, but I don't have time to wait 20 years for FB or Reddit to die. I've already waited 10 years.
Dude, you're missing the point entirely, at least my point. Forget about however you want to define "fad," which you seem to be stuck on. The main thing is you CAN'T compete with them, not in any meaningful way. Why are we even discussing that as some kind of possibility? You can still find a way to be successful, with a little luck, but you are not going to "compete" with FB or Reddit, etc., certainly not with a ready-made cms or forum software that you spent less than $200 on.
That would be, phpbb.I don't think they ever intended Xenforo to be the cheap choice for people who can't code
Well hold on, we get plenty of add-ons added to core over time. What I'm proposing likely will have poor reception for most forums and idk if XenForo wants to do that. Maybe. XenForo devs do a crazy amount of work as is. Every addon and feature ever SHOULD NOT be in core. XenForo is a framework as well, and every feature built into a framework will make it complex. XenForo is already one of the most feature rich platforms out there as it is.If you can make that back then yes. Why no. What TH offers. That should be in core, or at least half of it. Every niche is different, and I agree that XF devs can't fulfil everyone's needs and wishes, however, they can improve the forum to be more user friendly and appealing not only to admins, but to users as well, as they are the main audience.
You seem to keep getting hung up on trivial points. While what you've spent might seem like a lot to you, it's still not enough to put you in the same arena with the big players you keep referencing, like Reddit. Just as big chain-stores, and big businesses in general, monopolize most business in the brick-and-mortar world, so a relative handful of big businesses monopolize the internet. It was really a natural evolution, no surprise at all: many people were predicting exactly this kind of situation in the early days of the internet. And whatever replaces sites like Reddit and FB and the rest, whether that's five or twenty-five years from now, those sites/platforms are only likely to be even bigger and draw away even more traffic from smaller sites.I don't know about you, but I've spent over $500 on xenforo itself and related addons/themes/hosting costs, not to mention my own time spent coding which could have been billed at $100/hr somewhere else. I've spent a heroic amount of time and money on my own forums just for it to be beaten out by free alternatives.
Can't speak for Kier and the other people at Xenforo management for sure, but I don't think they ever intended Xenforo to be the cheap choice for people who can't code that are picking up the left-overs reddit left behind.
Many people seem to have this daft idea that the crappy Facebook format without even any text formatting is somehow better than a structured forum like XF with proper formatting and other features. They couldn't be more wrong.
I'm an end user and have had this view for years, so it's not related to that. I'd noticed how primitive the Facebook system is since I started using it over a decade ago and it hasn't improved since then, so my view hasn't changed. I have only very recently become a forum owner.The end user decides what is better, not the developers or forum owners. They are the ones that have to use it, and they are the ones forum owners need in order to survive. Yet, there are many who think they don't matter at all. The end user is king and what they want is what we should all want. I'm not running a forum for me, I'm running it for those who will use it.
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