Gun control

[Digital Doctor]

Message to the NRA:
Meet Joe, the Attack Dog.
Been the VP for >4 years, and this is his first Job.
He's going to be hungry for victory.

 

[Aarmin]

You realize its just a political agenda right?

 

[Digital Doctor]

I think it's not political.
People want change.
And the president is stepping up.

 

[EQnoble]

No....a few loud ass people want change(doesn't really matter what it is...they always have to complain about something and blame something else...) and wont shut the hell up basically, and they are fueled by people on a path to jump their career by questioning gun legality. It is just more feel good laws that do not stop making people act out violently.

If you can't admit that in this case a mentally unstable person committed a crime first and foremost before even mentioning a gun and admit that the first problem was that a mentally unstable person wanted to kill people...than just keep lying to yourself...jump on a bandwagon with some friends...and please....ride on the hell out of town....just don't think when you spew your witless banter of circular logic that people like me are going to shut up and take it...just like you will not be taking my guns.

I pay taxes, I work, I believe in civic duty, I care about the innocent especially the young, that is why when I normally wear a bald-fade for a haircut...I have hair that is a foot and a half long so they can make a wig out of it for some little kid going through chemo. I am not heartless nor am I irresponsible in any way. I am 0 and accountable for all my actions.

I am also American, I have a spine, I will happily give my life so another can live, stop trying to take away how I live my life in the meantime....thanks.

 

[BGL]

First of as we've already established only about one third of those deaths are the result of violent crime.

Second of all we established that of the 30,000 US gun deaths, using sound gun regulations as found in UK, Canada, Australia, Germany, US could reduce its gun deaths from 30,000 to 1,000.

 

[EQnoble]

No, we have sound regulations already....we have a lot of people however that are not of sound mind...

 

[Mike Edge]

I think it's not political.
People want change.
And the president is stepping up.

If only he had stated this agenda a month ago.. We would clearly have a different president now..

 

[BGL]

No, we have sound regulations already....we have a lot of people however that are not of sound mind...

30,000 gun deaths vs. UK's 100 says otherwise.

 

[Straydog]

30,000 gun deaths vs. UK's 100 says otherwise.

Still clueless aren't you. How about you remove the "gun" part of your statement. Regardless, we have and our Constitution grants us, the RIGHT to keep and bear arms. You may be happy giving up your rights to the same or maybe had no control over it but don't try to impose your personal agenda on those of us that abide by the law. Read my previous post regarding Mexico; and beyond that look to history regarding unarmed people. Fact is that it won't happen and anyone thinking so will be surprised yet again by the American resolve. Its not weapons that kill but the crazy moron behind them. Look at the difference in crime between cities with an armed populace as opposed to the unarmed and highly restricted areas. The numbers speak for themselves.

 

[BGL]

How about you remove the "gun" part of your statement.

30,000 is the number for gun deaths so there is no way to remove it.

We can remove the guns though, as other countries have done, and then we can remove the 30,000 part of the statement regarding gun deaths in the US.

 

[Kim]

Here it is and was Obamas agenda from the start to disarm the American populace for his Muslim counterparts.

Wow, just wow.

 

[SchmitzIT]

Regarding NRA, check here: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/18/nra-to-push-back-soon-sources-say/

That link contradicts the point you're trying to make. The article clearly sates that the gun-control lobby was the one instantly using the incident to promote their own agenda, and that up to the time of writing, the NRA kept quiet on it, and will address things on Friday.

In fact, the article shows that your earlier statement was directed at the wrong people.

I found it very disgusting to see you gun enthusiasts(and NRA) so fiecefully fight for your right of continuously owning guns in the U.S. over so many innocent kids' dead bodies!

If you're disgusted about dead children being used for a political agenda, take it up the gun-control lobby.

 

[Aarmin]

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[RickM]

My father works for a large US company but in the UK. He's had to go over to the company headoffices in NY a few times and he told me about an interesting discussion he had with a few of the US workers when he was there.

Basically they got onto the subject of guns, and they couldnt understand why we, in the UK didnt have guns.

The argument was "but how do you protect yourself". To which my dad replied "well we dont really need to. Nobodoy owns a gun...so you dont need to defend yourself from someone with a gun, as they cant get a gun in the first place".

There was a long pause...and then the penny dropped "Oh....that's actually pretty clever...".

Here's how I see it:

Every time you ask someone why they are pro-guns, they go on about it being their right and that its in the consitution, like it's set in stone. Here's the deal though. As part of the constitution, alcohol was banned. Yet it was repealed. The same can (and should) be done for guns. There's simply no logical reason to own one.

You wouldnt keep a bottle of anthrax in your cupboard 'just incase', so why should you keep a gun.

One person said it was 'to protect my family from the government' which I just found crazy.

If only law enforcement had guns, there would not be these deaths - thats pure and simple fact. Your gun crime rate would drop hugely. Sure, there will always be ways of getting guns, but it would be a hell of a lot harder.

It's just crazy that people - anyone - can think its normal to carry around something designed to kill.

 

[RickM]

Owning a gun does not protect or guarantee freedom, however; take away the right to protect yourself and your family and you are no longer free.

Logical question, dont wish to debate it so a simple/sweet answer if you could:

If NOBODY owned a gun, surely that's true freedom, is it not?

I have to ask this because the logic seems to be that "if I own a gun, I'm free" - despite being in one of the most state-controlled countries in the world.

 

[BGL]

The argument was "but how do you protect yourself". To which my dad replied "well we dont really need to. Nobodoy owns a gun...so you dont need to defend yourself from someone with a gun, as they cant get a gun in the first place".

The US problem in a nutshell. The only people we need to defend ourselves from are the gun nuts who stockpile weapons due to irrational fears. Newton and Mrs. Lanza being the perfect example and the statistical norm for a gun death, sane but irrational fears leading to home arsenal which is then used against her by family member and guns then used against public. Her training her emotionally disturbed son to use guns as means of enhancing his self esteem an example of the US gun psychology.

Now the gun lobby tells us we must arm the teachers, put guards and gates at our elementary schools to protect ourselves from their irrational and dangerous gun psychosis.

 

[EQnoble]

Logical question, dont wish to debate it so a simple/sweet answer if you could:

If NOBODY owned a gun, surely that's true freedom, is it not?

I have to ask this because the logic seems to be that "if I own a gun, I'm free" - despite being in one of the most state-controlled countries in the world.

That is perverted logic...owning guns is a right....taking that away also takes away freedom...period.

How is taking away something I have had my whole life freedom...?


And people doing big business in the city have nothing to do with the way a lot of people actually act in this country....again..if you actually lived here you would know. People who are against guns probably have never had their house broken into, never been shot, never fired a gun, never been car jacked and never had their family threatened seriously. They are scared because they dont understand guns so they blame them...it is a mental thing...it makes them feel secure...even though the problem was the crazy ******* with the gun intending to use it on innocent people. Since they do not understand guns they are scared and they blame them because people have a fear of the unknown...but yeah...again keep pushing the issue...

It is inarguable that people pushing the issue about gun control because of these murders are no better then the westboro baptist church

 

[EQnoble]

The US problem in a nutshell. The only people we need to defend ourselves from are the gun nuts who stockpile weapons due to irrational fears. Newton and Mrs. Lanza being the perfect example and the statistical norm for a gun death, sane but irrational fears leading to home arsenal which is then used against her by family member and guns then used against public. Her training her emotionally disturbed son to use guns as means of enhancing his self esteem an example of the US gun psychology.

Now the gun lobby tells us we must arm the teachers, put guards and gates at our elementary schools to protect ourselves from their irrational and dangerous gun psychosis.

You are stupid period, there is murderers thieves and rapists...they dont follow laws...making guns illegal will guarantee they are the only ones that have them...

 

[EQnoble]

The US problem in a nutshell. The only people we need to defend ourselves from are the gun nuts who stockpile weapons due to irrational fears. Newton and Mrs. Lanza being the perfect example and the statistical norm for a gun death, sane but irrational fears leading to home arsenal which is then used against her by family member and guns then used against public. Her training her emotionally disturbed son to use guns as means of enhancing his self esteem an example of the US gun psychology.

Now the gun lobby tells us we must arm the teachers, put guards and gates at our elementary schools to protect ourselves from their irrational and dangerous gun psychosis.

And stop saying gun lobby....I am a citizen with rights... you are acting like a lobbyist.

 

[Lawrence]

Logical question, dont wish to debate it so a simple/sweet answer if you could:

If NOBODY owned a gun, surely that's true freedom, is it not?

I have to ask this because the logic seems to be that "if I own a gun, I'm free" - despite being in one of the most state-controlled countries in the world.

The question is about your right to choose, not about actually owning a gun. With the exception of a BB gun when I was a child I never owned a gun, and I do not plan to. If I ever have the need to, that will be my decision to make, not yours or anyone else. If you make that choice for me, I am no longer free, but a slave to you.