Google Wants to Kill the JPEG: Meet WebP

If this format would be free and open source where do you see the attempt to rule? They invent and give this invention to the world. I think, we should say "thanks" at least.

Yeap google do things out of the goodness of their hearts with no thought given to the bottom line. Am fairly sure they'll have their hand in someone's pocket end of day with this one.
 
I've taken a lot of crap for not getting a Facebook account. It's like that scene in Next Generation where they want everyone to "play the game." Yeah, I'll find my friends without Facebook's help, thanks. The way they did it in the dark ages - emails and such. : D


LOL yeah. Even emails annoy me.. argh.. I have friends who write massive emails to me, and expect an answer back asap. I don't have time for that.. just pick up the phone and call, me, we can have this conversation in 10 minutes via the old fashioned way!

Oh I am soooo on the right path to be a Grumpy old lady!
 
LOL yeah. Even emails annoy me.. argh.. I have friends who write massive emails to me, and expect an answer back asap. I don't have time for that.. just pick up the phone and call, me, we can have this conversation in 10 minutes via the old fashioned way!

Oh I am soooo on the right path to be a Grumpy old lady!
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I actually am glad they're trying to topple JPEG, seeing as its been flawed since it was adopted as the primary format for web photography.

While they have an ulterior motive, its unlikely they'll change the licensing, and then charge for it, as they have rarely ever done that with half of their other projects.

I think however, this was one of the pet projects of an employee, which is how many of the things they've offered have started.
 
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Cheeeeeeeky boy!
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My phone goes "ring, beep .. hi, if you can't reach me, email me " - and it hangs up.
So I either pick up in a few rings, or I get an email. If it's marketing or anybody else, they won't have my email of course. Nor do I have to pick up. If it's really important, they can call me on my mobile. I don't do voicemails.
 
My phone goes "ring, beep .. hi, if you can't reach me, email me " - and it hangs up.
So I either pick up in a few rings, or I get an email. If it's marketing or anybody else, they won't have my email of course. Nor do I have to pick up. If it's really important, they can call me on my mobile. I don't do voicemails.
All my friends and family except my grandmother know to IM or text me to tell me they're going to call, otherwise I'm not picking up.

I avoid the phone like the plague :mad:.
 
Yeah I know what you mean, it's like how people just accept the abuse of their personal information by Facebook et al... every year people get dumber and dumber.

Google by and large has enjoyed a "benevolent" status, but I can see that changing, hopefully people will at least look and question what such a monster is doing.

Control the information, and you control the world... that is a bucket load of power in the hands of (presumably) 12 board members of a corporation with zero accountability.
Well, it's all about taking small steps. If twenty years ago, governments would introduce everything they did today (related to privacy breaking stuff) people would have rioted. However, because it's a small step each time, like demanding you put your fingerprint on your ID card and save that information in a database.. people will mind it less.

Also, most people don't see why they should care. Google is pretty much doing the same thing. Just take small steps, and slowly...

Anyway, a random quote from Google: If you're doing stuff you don't want people to know about, maybe you shouldn't be doing them in the first place?

A bit scary if you ask me.

just pick up the phone and call, me, we can have this conversation in 10 minutes via the old fashioned way!

Oh I am soooo on the right path to be a Grumpy old lady!
What happened to actually meet someone face to face to have a conversation? ;)
 
Well, it's all about taking small steps. If twenty years ago, governments would introduce everything they did today (related to privacy breaking stuff) people would have rioted. However, because it's a small step each time, like demanding you put your fingerprint on your ID card and save that information in a database.. people will mind it less.

Also, most people don't see why they should care. Google is pretty much doing the same thing. Just take small steps, and slowly...

Anyway, a random quote from Google: If you're doing stuff you don't want people to know about, maybe you shouldn't be doing them in the first place?

A bit scary if you ask me.

What happened to actually meet someone face to face to have a conversation? ;)
That quote is common sense.

Take celebrities that make sex tapes, or have nudes, that then get posted around on the Internet... They shouldn't have had those in a place where someone could have gotten them, and then spread them around virally.

Once something gets around, it is nearly impossible to get rid of.

There are much more evil companies compared to Google, Google is just one of the top ones, and have access to plenty of data that could be used harmfully.
 
Well, I don't use Facebook or Twitter either but I don't see how the introduction of an improved image format does anything to increase the global dominance of a company. Use it if you want.
 
Well, it's all about taking small steps. If twenty years ago, governments would introduce everything they did today (related to privacy breaking stuff) people would have rioted. However, because it's a small step each time, like demanding you put your fingerprint on your ID card and save that information in a database.. people will mind it less.

Also, most people don't see why they should care. Google is pretty much doing the same thing. Just take small steps, and slowly...

Anyway, a random quote from Google: If you're doing stuff you don't want people to know about, maybe you shouldn't be doing them in the first place?

A bit scary if you ask me.


Absolutely.. (horrible analogy alert..)

It's like the frog and boiling water thing.. put a frog in boiling water and it will fight like hell to get out... but.. put it cold water and slowly warm it, by the time it realises its too hot... it's too late.

What happened to actually meet someone face to face to have a conversation? ;)

but that would involve the real world.. and it's scary out there :o

Actually I had a guest over yesterday for lunch :D and we managed to "catch up" completely in about an hour..... sweet! :D
 
Well, I don't use Facebook or Twitter either but I don't see how the introduction of an improved image format does anything to increase the global dominance of a company. Use it if you want.


topic hijack.. FTW...

sorry to the OP, we do seem to have gotten somewhat off track :)
 
That quote is common sense.

Take celebrities that make sex tapes, or have nudes, that then get posted around on the Internet... They shouldn't have had those in a place where someone could have gotten them, and then spread them around virally.

Once something gets around, it is nearly impossible to get rid of.

There are much more evil companies compared to Google, Google is just one of the top ones, and have access to plenty of data that could be used harmfully.
It is. However, he pretty much says it's okay for google to do whatever they want with their data, because if you don't want people to know, you just shouldn't be doing it.

To compare, you might have watched pornographic movies. Maybe you cheated once. You might have stolen something. Or you might have a sexual preference most people would find weird. Would you want everyone to know all these things about you? Probably not. It might be common sense, but it's still a big deal if it's said by a company that most likely knows more about you than you do.

Also, it's not about them being evil. It's just that information is power, and power corrupts. And google sure does have a lot of information.
 
How is this possible to start charging for something, that is released as free and open source?

Nothing is free, if they're giving it away there's something in it for them. If they can't suddenly start charging you for it, you can bet that they're making money off it some other way, and they're making it off you. If not now, then they'll make it when the competition dries up because nobody can compete with a company that's giving it away. Didn't someone mention earlier how other browsers are dropping off in use? Well, I've seen that show before.
 
It is. However, he pretty much says it's okay for google to do whatever they want with their data, because if you don't want people to know, you just shouldn't be doing it.

To compare, you might have watched pornographic movies. Maybe you cheated once. You might have stolen something. Or you might have a sexual preference most people would find weird. Would you want everyone to know all these things about you? Probably not. It might be common sense, but it's still a big deal if it's said by a company that most likely knows more about you than you do.

Also, it's not about them being evil. It's just that information is power, and power corrupts. And google sure does have a lot of information.
This is a prime example of someone taking a quote, throwing on their crazy conspiracy hat, and running with a theory.

They are not saying they have control to do whatever they want with your information; they are saying if you do not want something known on the Internet, you should be much more aware of what you are doing, and what you release to the Internet. Look at all the recent issues involving privacy with Facebook, and many other places. Look at the increase in identity theft, and with how criminals are caught. Much of it is done through the Internet.

I won't say there probably won't be a point where Google abuses their information (They do sort of with their advertising, but thats expected by -every- advertising/search company), but they haven't really done so yet.

Nothing is free, if they're giving it away there's something in it for them. If they can't suddenly start charging you for it, you can bet that they're making money off it some other way, and they're making it off you. If not now, then they'll make it when the competition dries up because nobody can compete with a company that's giving it away. Didn't someone mention earlier how other browsers are dropping off in use? Well, I've seen that show before.

With browsers dropping off in use; Chrome offers a much better browser compared to others for the most part.

Firefox has declined as they have started bloating their program, and basically basked in the glory they got when they became the primary browser.

IE has straight up sucked forever.

Safari has never really had that large of a calling; though it has risen slightly.

Opera has made significant changes which alienated some users, but also adopted many new ones.

This is yet another conspiracy theory. If a company offers a better product, people will use that product instead of what they're currently using, which tends to be subpar.
 
Been there, done that. If another format were to overtake JPEG it would take at least ten years to do so, if only because Microsoft won't introduce support for a Google format until Internet Explorer 57.0, and they'll probably still be supporting IE6 at that point too.
 
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