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General Question on Better Editor Function - Link Titles

#1
Hi, I'm still quite new to the sw, so trying to figure out what's possible not possible.

My question is that with the standard editor of Xenforo it doesn't seem to be an option to title the links within a post, just "enter link url" using editor, no target possible, no naming or titleing of the link itself.

So, as of now, what is the best option to have this basic feature in the editor? I've found Adam's post here
http://xenforo.com/community/threads/ckeditor-4-0-gold.41683/#post-449124
And started installing some of the addons refererenced in that thread, but as soon as I do this, then the basic editor popup quits working.

So I guess I'm asking from some of you more experienced folks..what's the best way to get better editor functionality in Xenforo, and is there a solution (even if it's paid) so that it's currently working and bugproof at the current time?

Thanks!
 

Chris D

XenForo developer
Staff member
#2
Are you talking about having links like this?
Google

It's easy to create these. Type the text that you want, then highlight it. Then click the "link" button. This brings up the "enter link url" box. Once you've typed the URL, it will turn the word you've highlighted into a link.
 
#4
Hi Chris and Slavik... You all are so awesome ...getting tips and help here is the BEST...

Here's what I'm trying to do:

In Wordpress admin screen, you can add links to a post like this:
Writing in the post is like this, and some people use Google (in wordpress I click on link and up comes popup with url: which I set to: www.google.com , but I can also set a Title for that link so that Google is highlighted, but the actual title of the link is called Search Engine, I can also set the link to open in new window, and I think things like CKeditor has this type of functionality.

I would like more ability (at minimum what wordpress offers in terms of their editor so that more control options are available on links within the editor)

So sometimes you may want the title of your link to be either the actual url itself, or the word itself used in the post, but other times, I may need the ability for on mouseover, for the actual title of the link to be set to something other than the actual word in the document.

Here's a better example using code:

The title attribute may be set for both A and LINK to add information about the nature of a link. This information may be spoken by a user agent, rendered as a tool tip, cause a change in cursor image, etc.

Thus, we may augment a previous example by supplying a title for each link:
<BODY>
...some text...
<P>You'll find a lot more in <A href="chapter2.html"
title="This can be called whatever you want">chapter two</A>.
<A href="./chapter2.html"
title="This too can be customized.">chapter two</A>.
See also this <A href="../images/forest.gif"
title="GIF image of enchanted forest">map of
the enchanted forest.</A>
</BODY>


I think the CKeditor will do this, if there is a good way to get it installed with Xenforo. If not, is there any other option that you can recommend that gives more flexibility to set anchors and such within the editor?

Thank you both!
 

MagnusB

Well-known member
#5
The title is stripped out of xF's implementation of TinyMCE, pretty sure it supports it default. You will most likely require an addon to use it. As for target, it always default to blank (new page), as you don't want people to leave your page. This is also something that is stripped out and again would require an addon. I do not think this functionality is available, but you could request it.
 
#7
Magnus, thanks for the feedback. If anyone knows an add/on that includes this...seems like a valuable feature:)

I'm fine with having the default go to a new page, some of the other editors give you a choice, but I like new window links by default anyway.

The big issue is to set the title...
 
#9
Terrific, thank you Magnus, I will send Cedric a message. I was going to buy his upgrade mod anyway, so maybe that would work just great. Appreciate your suggestions and help. I'm getting ready to launch finally and have a few more loose ends to tie up.
 
#11
Hi James, thanks for responding. That's fine on a very basic level. I need just a bit more functionality than just linking to a particular term.
 

cclaerhout

Well-known member
#12
Well, I've been contacted (thank you guys) and I've just realized I wrote the same answer than Chris & Slavik wrote... with the same example... Google is a monster.

Direct link: http://www.xenforo.com/
Named link: XenForo
Code:
Code:
[url=http://www.xenforo.com/]XenForo[/url]
Or may be I don't understand the question...
 

MagnusB

Well-known member
#13
Well, I've been contacted (thank you guys) and I've just realized I wrote the same answer than Chris & Slavik wrote... with the same example... Google is a monster.

Direct link: http://www.xenforo.com/
Named link: XenForo
Code:
Code:
[url=http://www.xenforo.com/]XenForo[/url]
Or may be I don't understand the question...
He is after the title option in <a href="http://www.xenforo.com" title="Forum software">Xenforo</a>
title.jpg
 

cclaerhout

Well-known member
#14
#15
Thank you Cedric, that's going to be an awful lot of typing having to type in that bb code every single time I need to put a link into a post. Going to have to come up with a workaround even if it means having someone help implement another editor into Xenforo. Wonder why the TinyMCE feature that already included this was suppressed?

It's also not feasible for my users to have to type in that bb code each time. More manual typing and coding = more errors.

Thanks for the info though. I'll get in touch with you directly to see if the feature that is already supposed to be in TinyMCE can be added back or if there is just a way to pay for having the other editor ie: Ckeditor used and pay for that option.
 

cclaerhout

Well-known member
#16
Thank you Cedric, that's going to be an awful lot of typing having to type in that bb code every single time I need to put a link into a post. Going to have to come up with a workaround even if it means having someone help implement another editor into Xenforo. Wonder why the TinyMCE feature that already included this was suppressed?

It's also not feasible for my users to have to type in that bb code each time. More manual typing and coding = more errors.

Thanks for the info though. I'll get in touch with you directly to see if the feature that is already supposed to be in TinyMCE can be added back or if there is just a way to pay for having the other editor ie: Ckeditor used and pay for that option.
There's nothing to do with TinyMCE. XenForo is using his own TinyMCE plugin for the url popup box. Modifying this plugin won't be enough. It would require to modify the official XenForo bbcode url php callback.

The easiest solution as I told you would be to create a new bbcode. You could create a basic button with the BBcode Custom Manager. I guess you would like more (like on Wordpress) but it would require to create a dedicated popup window for your new bbcode. And now I don't have time to do this.
 

Adam Howard

Well-known member
#17
web09

I got your PM, but thought I would reply publicly here in this thread.

The CKeditor Project for XenForo was never finished and in the end abandon / discontinued, as noted as such here; http://xenforo.com/community/threads/alpha-and-beta-testers-for-ckeditor.34413/page-3#post-445003

cclaerhout has done the next best thing and has further developed and updated TinyMCE

http://xenforo.com/community/resources/tinymce-fix.1162/
http://xenforo.com/community/resources/tinymce-enhancements.1219/
http://xenforo.com/community/resources/advanced-bbcodes-toolbar.623/

http://xenforo.com/community/resources/custom-bb-code-manager.173/

With these combine add-ons, we're almost able to achieve all the default buttons and settings for the stock version of TinyMCE as seen here

http://www.tinymce.com/tryit/full.php

Not exactly there yet, but almost. And overall that was my desired goal (to have a full editor). I'm hoping that development will continue and it will be achievable in the future.

cclaerhout would be who I would recommend if you're seeking any custom work in regarding an editor. He has proven himself to be very skilled in this aspects and has my complete faith and respect in that general field.
 
#18
Adam, thank you for the update on the CKeditor. Still learning what's possible with Xenforo, and I will be in touch with Cedric to see if he can suggest a workaround for the title issue. (Which I think would benefit everyone to have this feature implemented, so I'll post an update if it's financially feasible to be done.) Appreciate your helpful posts and details.

P.S. Looks like the TinyMCE sample you posted does already have the title feature....Cedric says though it's more complex than what he has time to fix for now. I will have to see what I can do about a workaround for now, but in the meantime I'm also hoping for a full editor at some point. Would really add to the value of the sw:) Thanks for all your efforts thus far.
 

cclaerhout

Well-known member
#19
Adam, thank you for the update on the CKeditor. Still learning what's possible with Xenforo, and I will be in touch with Cedric to see if he can suggest a workaround for the title issue. (Which I think would benefit everyone to have this feature implemented, so I'll post an update if it's financially feasible to be done.) Appreciate your helpful posts and details.

P.S. Looks like the TinyMCE sample you posted does already have the title feature....Cedric says though it's more complex than what he has time to fix for now. I will have to see what I can do about a workaround for now, but in the meantime I'm also hoping for a full editor at some point. Would really add to the value of the sw:) Thanks for all your efforts thus far.
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