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/forum vs /???-forum ?

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by billybatz9, Jun 22, 2014.

  1. billybatz9

    billybatz9 Active Member

    I was wondering....

    Would it be better to make my website...

    engineheads.com/forum
    or
    engineheads.com/car-forum

    if I want to rank for car forum? or it doesnt matter?
     
  2. AndyB

    AndyB Well-Known Member

    I would make it:

    engineheads.com/forums
     
  3. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    If you install in the /forums directory, any forums will result in a double /forums/forums in the URL.

    I would advise against it.
     
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  4. Mr Lucky

    Mr Lucky Well-Known Member

    I agree with Brogan, install in the root. The /forums/ gets added anyway.

    These days keywords in the URL are of no value. They may show up bolder in a Google search, but as with keywords in the meta description, that does not mean they were actually counted in the search.
     
  5. avi

    avi Active Member

    Can you elaborate? I thought keywords in domain name and URL always mattered.
     
  6. Mr Lucky

    Mr Lucky Well-Known Member

    I think they used to for searches.

    It's still nice sometimes for user friendlyness to have relevant words in a URL, and in the description but I don't think any longer they have any relevance to serach position.

    But once a user sees the search results, they may click on something that looks more relevant, whether it's the URL having a useful word in it as opposed to lots of random letters and symbols, or whether it is a well cratfed meta description.

    Google no longer wants sites to be "optimised" for search engines, it is more likely to go for sites with good well written content (or big brands, but that's a different discussion!)

    In other words, in the old days you site might be well optimised for SEO, but not as useful for the user. Latest Google algorhythms are more after quality inbound links and good content.

    In your case I would say if engineheads alone attracts users then leave it at that. If you think the words car and/or forum need to be there then do so, but I think it is best something like this:

    engineheads.com
    A friendly forum for car enthusiasts interested in discussing all aspects of mechanics, tuning, customising, racing and rallying

    (or whatever its about) is going to be the best option.

    That would be the home page. By default, as Brogan says, any listings for the forum or threads within will have /forums/ anyway:

    engineheads.com/forums/thread-about-car-engines.12345
     
  7. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Just to clarify, only forums use the /forums route:

    http://xenforo.com/community/forums/off-topic.7/
    http://xenforo.com/community/threads/forum-vs-forum.76756/


    If this site was installed in the forums directory, rather than the /community directory, the URLs would be:

    http://xenforo.com/forums/forums/off-topic.7/
    http://xenforo.com/forums/threads/forum-vs-forum.76756/
     
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  8. billybatz9

    billybatz9 Active Member

    I have my forums on /forums

    Ho do I change it so I dont have double /forums ?
     
  9. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Move the installation to a new directory or the root.

    Or use a route filter in the ACP.
     
  10. AndyB

    AndyB Well-Known Member

    My understanding is that is not possible. I've had it this way on my forum for a long time and it's really not an issue.
     
  11. Chris D

    Chris D XenForo Developer Staff Member

    @Brogan just explained it was possible...
     
  12. AndyB

    AndyB Well-Known Member

    I should have been more clear. You cannot remove one of the /forums when there is a double /forums in the URL. In other words you can't replace a route with nothing.
     
  13. Mr Lucky

    Mr Lucky Well-Known Member

    Surely the reason for the double /forums/ is that xenforo is installed into a directory called /forums, therefore moving it up into the root would lose one?

    In other words into public_html instead instead of public_html/forums
     
  14. Chris D

    Chris D XenForo Developer Staff Member

    @Brogan said that too.

    It depends how plausible that is, though. AndyB, for example, has a non-XF landing page so he has no choice unless he does his landing page in XF. Obviously anyone who wishes to use a third party front end won't be able to install XF into the same directory.

    But yeah, if you don't have any sort of front end, I'd move everything up to the root.

    Failing that, a good example is exactly what XenForo does. They solve the forums/forums issue by installing XF into the community directory.
     
  15. Make it http://www.engineheads.com/forum
    It's easier for everyone to remember.
    You can easily call one of your categories car forum.
     
  16. billybatz9

    billybatz9 Active Member

    So i can go to my cpanel and just change /forums to /forum or something
     
  17. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Yes.

    The FAQ explains the other steps required.
     
  18. Mr Lucky

    Mr Lucky Well-Known Member

    You would of course still have forum/forums/
     
  19. billybatz9

    billybatz9 Active Member

    Yeah, but Better than forums/forums

    I might just leave it. I dont think it makes a difference.
     
  20. rwm1962

    rwm1962 Active Member

    Not how it works on my current platform. Given that's how it works on XF does this affect any attempts to fix image paths & internal links in imported posts?
     

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