that is not an answer. I have already explain. Let me tell you what is the standard in the internet for a good navigation. Usually, most of the website, highlight the word on the navigation of the section you are at. The about page works fine. The problem its you homepage. If you think that is fine, then you are saying it is wrongly designed. this is a basic concept Russ. Have you ever seen a website where the v=breadcrumb shows you a path that is not where you are at? what it would be the purpose of doing that? why would you like to say in the breadcrumb that you are in the forum list page while you are in the homepage? how can ou not see that there is a problem here?