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[RobParker]

Some addons use TMS to do the edits where there's no hooks.

As I understood it, that's effectively what the new core functionality is.

 

[Luxus]

What are you using the TMS for?

I guess for his "add-on like" template edits, which are nothing else but style edits.

 

[Shelley]

I guess for his "add-on like" template edits, which are nothing else but style edits.

Totally agree with you 100%.

 

[Shelley]

Some addons use TMS to do the edits where there's no hooks.

Yeah, alot use it for this but I was getting at other template edits (style related) and I'm sure I've seen DRE post and request support for such edits which was the reason I asked. But from my understanding the xf tms won't support the styling side that the TMS add-on does.

 

[DRE]

You are calling template edits, style edits now? That's fine with me but that's what TMC does as well as TMS.

 

[Shelley]

You are calling template edits, style edits now? That's fine with me but that's what TMC does as well as TMS.

Template edits/ style edits via templates basically the same thing unless it's add-on only (hook placements) template edits your making?

 

[Russ]

The only difference DRE is we won't be able to export them as template edits for say premium styles. Using TMC that is that I understand

 

[Kevin]

I had thought the big issue was that TMS allows for per style edits while the new TMC does not?

 

[DRE]

I had thought the big issue was that TMS allows for per style edits while the new TMC does not?

Forreal???

 

[Shelley]

The only difference DRE is we won't be able to export them as template edits for say premium styles. Using TMC that is that I understand

I had thought the big issue was that TMS allows for per style edits while the new TMC does not?

You explained it better it was what I was basically trying to say.

edit: quoted you by mistake DRE sorry you may have received an alert.

 

[Russ]

I had thought the big issue was that TMS allows for per style edits while the new TMC does not?

That and the exporting I believe, doesn't function like the TMS, although that's not what they were shooting to replicate of course. However... a build in TMS system would be the cherry on top, could be the end of majority of manual template edits allowing for easy peezy upgrades.

 

[Kevin]

Forreal???

I wouldn't lie to you. From the TMC thread Mike even says that it is targeted for add-ons and not styles. Essentially TMC eliminates Mike from being bugged about adding new hooks in a bunch of places (eg: when RM was released almost immediately the requests came in for new hook locations).

 

[DRE]

Okay so I went back to Mike's thread and saw this:

if you're not an add-on developer, but unless you have multiple styles, I'd recommend just making the changes to the templates directly.

He suggests us make the changes to the templates directly, which is cool and all, problem is when you have to revert changes due to either a Xenforo or addon/style upgrade. So what I learned from this is when I get TMC, I'll apply the TMS changes to TMC on my parent style and for individual style edits, I'll use that for TMS. I only have one template that needs to be edited directly into a child style so that means my TMS will only be used for that one template edit in that one style and the TMS changes from other resource author's addons.

 

[Jeremy]

Okay so I went back to Mike's thread and saw this:

He suggests us make the changes to the templates directly, which is cool and all, problem is when you have to revert changes due to either a Xenforo or addon/style upgrade. So what I learned from this is when I get TMC, I'll apply the TMS changes to TMC on my parent style and for individual style edits, I'll use that for TMS. I only have one template that needs to be edited directly into a child style so that means my TMS will only be used for that one template edit in that one style and the TMS changes from other resource author's addons.

The new template history and merging will make this less of an issue.

 

[Russ]

Okay so I went back to Mike's thread and saw this:

He suggests us make the changes to the templates directly, which is cool and all, problem is when you have to revert changes due to either a Xenforo or addon/style upgrade. So what I learned from this is when I get TMC, I'll apply the TMS changes to TMC on my parent style and for individual style edits, I'll use that for TMS. I only have one template that needs to be edited directly into a child style so that means my TMS will only be used for that one template edit in that one style and the TMS changes from other resource author's addons.

Nah just gather our pitchforks and demand Mike stares at the code until he implements individual style editing with exporting.

 

[DRE]

The new template history and merging will make this less of an issue.

Oh wow I forgot about that. I really missed that coming from vBulletin 4.

 

[Luxus]

TMC is basically a hook-less hook system for add-ons, if I understand correctly. The advantage of this is faster loading times as with TMS. The disadvantage of this is, as I understand, it's harder to update add-ons if you have made your own custom edits to add-on templates.

 

[Shelley]

Nah just gather our pitchforks and demand Mike stares at the code until he implements individual style editing with exporting.

that would make XF real special if this was implemented. Style updating made easier than it already is? I think we would need to change the term "updating style".

 

[Russ]

that would make XF real special if this was implemented. Style updating made easier than it already is? I think we would need to change the term "updating style".

I think the new term could be, "what the hell, my styles updated"

 

[DRE]

I might as well start editing my parent styles now due to template merging and history coming soon.

I might encounter some TMS problems along the way though...