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Add Kraken.io integration

Discussion in 'XenForo Suggestions' started by Tom Nunamaker, Dec 27, 2015.

  1. Tom Nunamaker

    Tom Nunamaker Member

    Compressing images reduces disk space and speeds up page load time. Kraken.io has an API that is easy to work with and it should be fairly simple to add support for Kraken.io into the XenForo core.
     
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  2. mcatze

    mcatze Well-Known Member

  3. Tom Nunamaker

    Tom Nunamaker Member

    I thought of that but apparently the author is MIA and Kraken is changing their API so I doubt the add on will continue working. You can't purchase the add on and the author doesn't respond so that's a dead option unfortunately.
     
  4. Tracy Perry

    Tracy Perry Well-Known Member

    Should a dependency on an outside paid resource be added as a core feature? Some ways I can see it, but if they were going to do that, why not just have it so that the ability can be done on the server itself. I think (I'm not a graphics expert by far) that ImageMagick and mogrify can compress the images.
    And do you expect a new release of XenForo to come out each/every time they change the API? Because the very thing commented on about the add-on possibly not working will apply to XenForo until a new version is released with use of the updated API.
     
    Last edited: Jan 4, 2016
  5. Ugur Ilmaz

    Ugur Ilmaz Member

    Great idea.
     
  6. Tom Nunamaker

    Tom Nunamaker Member

    There are already integrations to 3rd parties such as twitter, facebook, StopForumSpam, etc. APIs don't change that often so I don't see that as a big obstacle. I haven't compared ImageMagick compression to Kraken.io but I'm in favor of any image compression built in to the core.
     
  7. Mouth

    Mouth Well-Known Member

    Alternatively, https://optimus.io/en/ is a much cheaper service achieving the same result.
     
  8. Tom Nunamaker

    Tom Nunamaker Member

    Kraken.io has a $5/mon plan that has been overkill for my forum.
     
  9. Tom Nunamaker

    Tom Nunamaker Member

    If you don't mind doing some manual work you can use Kraken for free. The XF attachments are in the /data/attachments/0 folder. Just use the Kraken.io web interface to compress the images and upload the files to your server.
     
  10. gfc

    gfc Active Member

    That doesnt work as metadata are stored on the db tables which leads to tons of errors. That was the reason why the Kraken.io Addon has been developed. Unfortinatly it sems thst it is unsupported since the developer is gone missing.

    See https://xenforo.com/community/resources/goodfornothing-kraken.3987/
     
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  11. Mouth

    Mouth Well-Known Member

    Which is still 250% more than Optimus.io
     
  12. Tracy Perry

    Tracy Perry Well-Known Member

    I'm sure that there are libraries out there that can be installed on the server(s) to allow this. Why not treat it similar to ImageMagic vs GD2. If you want to use the option, one of the requirements would be to have the necessary libraries installed for the compression. That way, there is no dependence on an outside 3rd party provider for the service.
     
  13. 0ptima

    0ptima Well-Known Member

  14. Robust

    Robust Well-Known Member

    If you want it in the core, I'd prefer kraken. It's cheap and it's the most credible and reliable of the options.
     
  15. Mouth

    Mouth Well-Known Member

    How do you figure that?
     
  16. Robust

    Robust Well-Known Member

    One, kraken is actually professional and doesn't look like a hobbyist site. Two, if you had to bet either of those to stay around the longest, kraken would win by far.
     
  17. Mouth

    Mouth Well-Known Member

    Kraken has been around for 2 years and is owned and run by two guys in Germany.
    Optimus has been around for 18 months, and is owned and run by KeyCDN.
    Kraken is $50 per year, with a 500mb per month limit. Optimus if $30 per year, with a no monthly limit.
    I know which one I think is more likely to stay around and be more stable.
     
  18. AlexGAN

    AlexGAN New Member

    So we have 2 clear fans of Kraken and Optimus :)
     
  19. AlexGAN

    AlexGAN New Member

    Just tested Optimus, here's what I didn't like about them:
    • cannot optimize files over 5MB
    • only lossless optimization with average results
     

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