The thing is this... Smaller sites could benefit from the upgraded search function, especially if it's a really big niche. $10 isn't much, but the search functionality should be available to "all." I'm using quotes for all because it benefits them; if a user wants to find a particular subject, it should work. I'm not saying that the search functionality that exists in standard xF license doesn't work, it's just that it sounds like an elite version of an existing product.The built-in, standard XF search will work fine for the majority of people and comes as part of XF. For those with sites that need it, there's the option to buy this and to be honest, if you need this then the price will be an irrelevant fraction of your running costs.
Would make sense... MySQL-based search doesn't support a lot of good search functionality (at least not well). Calculating relevancy in relation to other results, word stemming/morphology support, etc.So: Order By Relevance is an addon only option ?
I think that will change once InnoDB FTS matures. Here is a newish blog about it: http://blogs.innodb.com/wp/2011/12/innodb-full-text-search-in-mysql-5-6-4/Would make sense... MySQL-based search doesn't support a lot of good search functionality (at least not well). Calculating relevancy in relation to other results, word stemming/morphology support, etc.
As great as they make MySQL fulltext search, it will never be the best tool for the job... and will never perform as well as systems that are designed from the ground up to be a search engine. Fulltext search in MySQL is really there as a convenience, not because they make any sort of claim it can be used on a large scale deployment.I think that will change once InnoDB FTS matures. Here is a newish blog about it: http://blogs.innodb.com/wp/2011/12/innodb-full-text-search-in-mysql-5-6-4/
Absolutely, I am not saying that it will ever replace systems designed to be the best at search. I was thinking that ranking/stemming/etc will make their way into the FTS (if using InnoDB) and thus open up "better" search to the masses who cannot have dedicated search systems for whatever reason.As great as they make MySQL fulltext search, it will never be the best tool for the job... and will never perform as well as systems that are designed from the ground up to be a search engine. Fulltext search in MySQL is really there as a convenience, not because they make any sort of claim it can be used on a large scale deployment.
They most definitely can make it better, but there are design limitations of MySQL itself that will prevent it from being better than a purpose designed search engine. It's like using an Excel spreadsheet as a database. Yes... you sort of can do it... you can sort by columns or even filter/search columns... but what happens if you tried to have let's say 50,000,000 rows in your spreadsheet? MySQL is fundamentally designed to be very fast with exact key lookups, not searching for parts of documents.
The product is running right here powering searchI was happy at first but after I saw the price I don't want to be judgemental, so lets see the product first!
It looks like it as they go through the search system as a type of search.Does anyone know if the Recent Activity and 'What's New?' pages are also generated by ElasticSearch?
Neither do - they have dedicated systems that don't need ES.Does anyone know if the Recent Activity and 'What's New?' pages are also generated by ElasticSearch?
Oh, how come they are included into xf_search ?Neither do - they have dedicated systems that don't need ES.
I was happy at first but after I saw the price I don't want to be judgemental, so lets see the product first!
http://xenforo.com/community/search/?type=postBTW can anyone explain where I can test it here, because I see no difference in functionality or speed here
The biggest "function" is that the nasty queries don't need to hit your DB server.To be honest I thought it would be core and free. I'm running a big board and no problem paying for it, still feels strange it isn't core. But maybe I don't get it or something. Maybe it's just a lot of extra work for them and simply not possible for the base price.
BTW can anyone explain where I can test it here, because I see no difference in functionality or speed here, or is that supposed to be so?
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