XF 2.3 ?

[Mouth]

It would be a lot easier and quicker for you to list just some of the innovations you mean.

That's the point, what might be for me and my community may not be for you and yours. If you/they feel happy and complacent, then it matters not. If you're concerned by 3+ years between first dot point release in commercial software, and understanding what the market and alternative products have/are doing in that timeframe, then you should already be aware or investigating them. I'm not trying to sway or change your opinion, and if you are interested then you should be going to the 'source of the truth'.

 

[Mr Lucky]

That's the point, what might be for me and my community may not be for you and yours.

OTOH maybe it would be. I might learn something. Various people here are implying innovation and/or change is necessary and that software companies should upgrade the product more often, then it would be good to argue that case with solid examples.

And if such innovations are more niche, as you say "what might be for me and my community may not be for you and yours" then there is a good chance they should be addons (and will be already if there is demand) not filling the core with more niche stuff.

If you/they feel happy and complacent,

Somewhat insulting, as if not wanting/needing change and preferring stability has to involve complacency.

It would be great to have this dialogue politely and congenially.

 

[Mouth]

It would be great to have this dialogue politely and congenially.

Yawn, it's a tiresome record. Stop looking to be spoon fed and go look at what the market offers. Come back and discuss , if you wish.

 

[TPerry]

companies should upgrade the product more often, then it would be good to argue that case with solid examples.

Well, honestly... after 2 years of no "real" upgrades.... I think that even solid examples should not be needed... just looking through the suggestions area can give plenty of those... some of those suggestions being older than a decade.

 

[JamesBrown]

It would be great to have this dialogue politely and congenially.

It's not going to happen. And we're supposed to be the whinging Poms

 

[Taylor J]

Visual basic is the pearl language.
i studied it so i know more than you
Also when you check the source in your browser you will see a lot of html language.
Do a programming course. I encourage you to learn about how things work.

I mean I work as a professional backend developer using Node, TypeScript, and some Python so I don't think I need to take a course on something I already know.
You know what, I'm going to recommend you take a course. As Visual Basic is not the Perl language. Visual Basic is its own language....
And yes, of course it uses HTML, that's how a browser shows a webpage...

 

[DigNap15]

I look at Windows 11 and I don't see any major changes that woudl help me in my day to day work.
Its just a new desktop layout.

Its the same with Microsoft Word and Excel, there is very little that they can add to these programs now that they are fully mature.

So I can't see any major earth shattering changes coming in XF 3.00

 

[DigNap15]

Why do we all have forums, instead of start a FB group or a sub Reditt?

 

[Mendalla]

start a FB group

FB groups suck at discussions compared to forums (part of why my site exists at all). Not much experience with Reddit but it has not impressed me yet as an alternative to a classic forum.

look at Windows 11 and I don't see any major changes that woudl help me in my day to day work.
Its just a new desktop layout.

Its the same with Microsoft Word and Excel, there is very little that they can add to these programs now that they are fully mature.

I could do most of what I do day-to-day in Office 2000. There's some newer features I use for work but in my personal life, I have no real need for the vast majority of new features. I mostly use Google Docs and Sheets for personal use anymore.

And for me, Windows was basically perfect as of 7. Even XP wasn't bad once they got a couple SPs out (I'll refrain from mentioning my opinion of V----). 8 and later haven't exactly thrilled me, esp. all the shenanigans around the Start menu, which was perfectly functional in 7 IMHO.

So I can't see any major earth shattering changes coming in XF 3.00

Actually, they wouldn't release a 3.0 if they didn't have any earth-shattering changes. That's where we might see them remake it as more of a social platform, assuming they were to buy into that idea. But for 2.x releases like the much debated 2.3, yeah it'll be incremental changes and improvements.

 

[Mr Lucky]

Actually, they wouldn't release a 3.0 if they didn't have any earth-shattering changes.

I wouldn't try to second guess what they might do.

Version 2 big changes seemed to be a new default style that was lovely IMO plus a huge change in the underlying structure/coding that is way above my head but I gather it made customising and addon development easier and more efficient and elegant. So kind of paved the way for the big changes that people notice.

The really big changes that I welcomed specifically came in 2.1 (reactions, unfurling, push, editor button management) and 2.2. So I think the same could happen that version 3 means a lot under the bonnet (crucial for devs) but less impact on forum admins and users until the later point releases.

 

[Mendalla]

So I think the same could happen that version 3 means a lot under the bonnet (crucial for devs) but less impact on forum admins and users until the later point releases.

True enough. I basically ended up skipping 2.0 and going to straight to 2.1 by the time I got a dev environment spun up and tested so never really saw what 2.0 was like. But it was earth-shattering in the sense of having to redo styles, redo or get new add-ons. So earth-shattering for devs, owners, and sysadmins, less so for users, I guess.

 

[MarenLBC]

Will xf2.3 come with a feature to block seeing @aussiefooty posts in the core?

No, you can only do that if the application is coded in Swift

 

[Gemma]

I generally stay away from threads like this mainly because of the "me me me" postings. I've not read the whole thread and I don't intend on doing so but a lot of the suggestions I've seen are for features that will benefit only a small number of sites and aren't really features that should be considered core features - if you need features like that then pay a developer to create them or buy an existing addon (if it doesn't exist it then probably isn't a much sought after feature in the first place) - core features should be beneficial to the majority, IMO.

I'm not sure what I expect from 2.3, or if I'll even upgrade. If there is anything that requires major reworking of my site or breaks existing addons then I'll need to seriously weigh up the pros & cons - most of what I personally need I've already purchased.

One thing this thread does suggest is that XF needs a much better and expanded ignore function so hopefully something will be implemented (although there are a few addons available that aren't expensive). I'd even donate the money to XF to buy one of them and have it functioning right now tbh.

Not even sure why everyone is moaning about the time between releases, 2.2 works very well. Yes, new features are always welcome but if you've been hanging around waiting for new features in the hope that it will magically make your site all singing and all dancing then you are probably going to be disappointed...in fact, there will probably be some epic meltdowns once 2.3 is released going by some posts I've read here...

 

[Deleted member 745]

Any ETA on 2.3? Going to renew my licenses, just holding off on install if it's close to being ready?

 

[Deleted member 184953]

Tomorrow or later...

 

[eL_]

Tomorrow or later...

I`m awake all night, writing some articles on my page.

 

[Miri]

Tomorrow or later...

Oh wow, I just realized that even if I read your post tomorrow, it will still say "Tomorrow or later..." So, nice strategy, I must say.

 

[cdub]

Oh wow, I just realized that even if I read your post tomorrow, it will still say "Tomorrow or later..." So, nice strategy, I must say.

Free beer tomorrow or later

 

[Frode789]

I generally stay away from threads like this mainly because of the "me me me" postings. I've not read the whole thread and I don't intend on doing so but a lot of the suggestions I've seen are for features that will benefit only a small number of sites and aren't really features that should be considered core features - if you need features like that then pay a developer to create them or buy an existing addon (if it doesn't exist it then probably isn't a much sought after feature in the first place) - core features should be beneficial to the majority, IMO.

I'm not sure what I expect from 2.3, or if I'll even upgrade. If there is anything that requires major reworking of my site or breaks existing addons then I'll need to seriously weigh up the pros & cons - most of what I personally need I've already purchased.

One thing this thread does suggest is that XF needs a much better and expanded ignore function so hopefully something will be implemented (although there are a few addons available that aren't expensive). I'd even donate the money to XF to buy one of them and have it functioning right now tbh.

Not even sure why everyone is moaning about the time between releases, 2.2 works very well. Yes, new features are always welcome but if you've been hanging around waiting for new features in the hope that it will magically make your site all singing and all dancing then you are probably going to be disappointed...in fact, there will probably be some epic meltdowns once 2.3 is released going by some posts I've read here...

This again..
Yes 2.2 works well. Does that mean it is perfect and can never be improved upon? No. Customers asking for some improvements in the core, after 2.5 years without any changes, does not mean that said customers think that new improvements and features will magically make their site into a success. That's not how the world works. Even implying so is kind of patronizing towards the customers that are just looking forward to finally some new features or tools to help them in their everyday use of their site.

For example changes in the core for speed improvements. Lots of room there to gain. Improvements to content delivery, completely revamped what's new page for a modern alternative to the legacy forum list, like many have asked for. Live Filtering, feed system, optional thread voting etc. It should be core, the current what's new page is bad.
Ignore filter system.
WebP support.. (I need this, my site is img heavy even when optimized)
And I'd love to see several other features from the suggestion forum, even if I don't find them critical.
But sure. That will benefit just "a few users"..

 

[Deleted member 184953]

if you need features like that then pay a developer to create them or buy an existing addon (if it doesn't exist it then probably isn't a much sought after feature in the first place)

Having no visibility for so long on future features poses a problem, which I consider important: third-party developers may have justified reluctance to imagine, code and then distribute add-ons that offer features that could subsequently be integrated into XF, the risk of seeing their dozens of hours of work wiped out in a minute exists really.

And on the administrator side, which I am, they can be reluctant to invest in add-ons for the same reasons. Two years of waiting in the fog is a long time and besides it is not so much the duration as the fog that warms the spirits... Where are we going? No one knows, the only thing we know is that we've been walking for 2 years without a real destination. So we walk, we walk, we walk and when we start to get fed up we complain so the leaders throw us a piece of carrot to make us wait but we still don't know where we're going and that's terribly frustrating.

One day I don't care about all that, then the next day it annoys me, then I don't care again...
Yesterday my little dog met a jackal, and he bit her ear... It's the first time I saw him bleeding, it made me so sad... So XF 2.3 you know...