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Xenforo lite

Discussion in 'General XenForo Discussion and Feedback' started by Mr Lucky, Dec 9, 2014.

  1. Mr Lucky

    Mr Lucky Well-Known Member

    A cheaper version with very basic features.

    I now have two licenses, but would consider a 3rd, however it's for a very lightly used forum that doesn't need all the bells and whistles of xenforo (wonderful as it is) or any addons.

    I think an upgradeable lite version for about half the price would be great.
  2. RobParker

    RobParker Well-Known Member

    It's already ridiculously cheap for what it is...
  3. MattW

    MattW Well-Known Member

    Once you get to 3 licences, so start to get a bulk discount.
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  4. tyteen4a03

    tyteen4a03 Well-Known Member

    For small forums, MyBB might be a better choice. Once you get big, you can switch back to XenForo.
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  5. Mr Lucky

    Mr Lucky Well-Known Member

    No, horrible to have to learn different ACP and moderating.
  6. Mr Lucky

    Mr Lucky Well-Known Member

    Not for everyone.

    I also think this might just sway a few people who are currently using nulled versions.
  7. tyteen4a03

    tyteen4a03 Well-Known Member

    The common forum softwares aren't that different...

    I ran a lightly used MyBB forum before; it's the same guessable batches of buttons and interfaces.
  8. Andrej

    Andrej Well-Known Member

    Even software that only cost 5$ is pirated, so I wouldn't consider that as an argument.
    Last edited: Dec 9, 2014
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  9. tyteen4a03

    tyteen4a03 Well-Known Member

    As a poor student that once had next to zero income, I don't agree. I absolutely hated what was available (MyBB wasn't as popular at that time) and it made me shiver just to think of the days of Discuz! and phpBB.

    Although free will always be better in the eyes of the poor...
  10. Mr Lucky

    Mr Lucky Well-Known Member

    Believe it or not there are some people that would prefer not to use pirated software if they could afford the legit versions. Of course you are right, some will always just want stuff for free, illegal or not, but for others there is a sort of threshold at which they decide that something is just too expensive.

    I never meant this to turn into a debate, just an idea I threw out there.

    It actually makes the difference between me buying another licence or struggling on with phpbb for a very small insignificant forum.

    I think this idea would be incredibly easy to develop, it is basically the same software with a lot of stuff turned off.
  11. Steve F

    Steve F Well-Known Member

    If the forum is small and insignificant then surely it would not require much ACP setup or moderation?

    Besides trying to make a lite version would require extra development time and a whole new support area. Look around for second hand license is your best bet or free.
  12. Mr Lucky

    Mr Lucky Well-Known Member

    I did look, it all seems a bit dodgy. And I don't think there is such a thing as a free licence.
  13. Steve F

    Steve F Well-Known Member

    Free forum software such that has been suggested
  14. Martok

    Martok Well-Known Member

    I disagree. Really you'd have to recode and remove the functionality altogether. If it's left in and 'switched off' then you'll get people buying the 'lite' version and simply hacking it back on again.

    Recoding a 'lite' version is only going to take the devs away from the main software, which I don't think they will do. I don't think it's in their best interests to spend a lot of time on something that will bring in less money than the full fat XenForo.
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  15. semprot

    semprot Active Member

    You can use phpbb / smf for your smaller forum.
    I think those 2 are the best free forum software.
  16. Mr Lucky

    Mr Lucky Well-Known Member

    You seem to have missed my earlier posts. i am currently using phpbb but really don't want to. Hence the suggestion.

    I can see that this suggestion is meeting a lot of resistance, fair enough, it was just a suggestion, but much of the negatives are pure speculation.
    I think if people are going to hack, they'd just get the nulled full version which seems to be readily available.

    The concept of lite software is however a tried and tested marketing success story. Think of Apple:

    iMovie > FCP
    Garageband > Logic
  17. Mike Edge

    Mike Edge Formerly Da Bookie Mon

    XenForo pricing is already a lite price compared to other commercial forum software. In fact almost 50% cheaper then vB.
  18. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Out of interest, which features would you remove to make a "lite version for about half the price", without ruining the functionality, usefulness and user engagement?

    Don't include anything which has been added since 1.0, as the price has remained the same since then.
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  19. Martok

    Martok Well-Known Member

    I think my assessment is likely more accurate than your speculation that a lite version is just a case of switching stuff off.

    If people are going to hack anyway, then your argument that a cheaper lite version is null and void (pun intended).
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  20. Mr Lucky

    Mr Lucky Well-Known Member

    Interesting question. If this is being taken seriously as a suggestion then I am happy to throw some ideas out

    To begin with I would remove most styling options (apart from using your own logo and colour changes).

    Limit number of addons. New users would soon find they want more and so upgrade - good marketing strategy.

    Limit number of usergroups (same good marketing strategy)

    Limit number of nodes (same good marketing strategy)

    For a start that would seem to be it. It would encourage small forums to pay for lite licence as opposed to null and then upgrade when they discover how good it could be if/when they want to expand.

    I am sure there is a much better way of doing this than the above, but I'm neither a developer expert nor a marketing expert. I'm just a bloke who threw the idea out there. My gut feeling is that this would work very well in getting many new customers for the full version as the current demo thing never let's you get an actual live forum.

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