Wordpress Drama

[yavuz]

As someone who's built most of their stack on WordPress over the years, I’m honestly blown away by how things have gone downhill. Matt Mullenweg no longer feels like a visionary, more like a bitter kid trying to micromanage everything. The drama around plugins, hosting, and policies feels completely unnecessary. Just petty and disappointing.

These days, I’m building frontends with Lovable and Builder.io, and going either custom or with Strapi on the backend. Honestly, it outperforms WordPress in every way. It’s cleaner, faster, and way more flexible. WordPress just can’t keep up anymore.

 

[Suzanne O]

I was not saying he is a saint. Just that he fell less from where he's already been. And less than other CEOs did.

Zuckerberg is not the problem.
It's more the fact that Matt lost his mind at everyone over everything.
Imagine if the guys at XF did that to us on here and they weren't able to generate any funding because of it.

 

[RobinHood]

Got any examples of what you've made with these tools?
How much customisation do you do to the underlying code on top of what they produce?
Not had a chance to try any of these AI builders yet.

 

[Milen]

Let me find out if I have read and understood correctly! If I make a website and host system for XenForo under the domain XFengine.com, which host will be the best solution. Then I will have to pay XenForo Ltd for the fact that thanks to me more and more people use their system? Did I understand correctly or.....?

 

[TLDR]

Let me find out if I have read and understood correctly! If I make a website and host system for XenForo under the domain XFengine.com, which host will be the best solution. Then I will have to pay XenForo Ltd for the fact that thanks to me more and more people use their system? Did I understand correctly or.....?

Ok to be completely fair, it is a little more nuanced.

So first of all, Matt was mad (see what I did there) because WPengine "looked" like an official, WordPress-affiliated service. I mean, in a way, it has been, because Automattic had stock until they sold it.

And when this point started to look ridiculous, he was mad at WPE for using Automattic's infrastructure for plugins and themes. Which, maybe, kinda, sorta, might be a somewhat fair point. I mean Linux distros also ask providers (of servers and clouds and whatnot) to mirror the repos so the customers don't flood the server with requests which is all the same anyway.

The first point is completely up to you to hit the tone right. The second point would not happen on XF because the repo is the Resources, and those are not freely available anyway but locked behind a user login (with license check and everything).