XF 1.4 Updating user Node Permissions

[RichardKYA]

Hello,

I'm not sure if this is right or not, but when I update a users node permissions, I also have to click the "Update" button below the "Private Node" checkbox before the new user node permissions take affect.

I have to click this one first which is at the bottom of the user node permissions.....



....and it saves the new changes fine, but they won't have any affect until I also click this one as well.....



Is this how it should be or is there something not right here?

I can duplicate this every time, on any node, with any user.

Any help would be appreciated

Thank you

 

[Paul B]

Admin templates will be overwritten.

You should create admin template modifications instead.

 

[Martok]

Do note that this doesn't mean that you shouldn't have the Registered group as your primary user group - you should, just as is the case for all members. What you need to do is set View Node to Allow for a user group that you are also a member of eg the group that can view this node/ moderators user group/ administrators user group.

 

[RichardKYA]

OK.

Just a question though, doesn't "revoke" prevent that user group permission anyway?

I thought permissions were in a kind of hierarchy, so if there is a revoke amongst the user groups, it will cancel any allows amongst the user groups, but if a member has a user permission set to allow, it will cancel out any user group revokes. For the same permission of course.

Is that wrong?

 

[Paul B]

Correct.

Permissions are cumulative and an explicit allow will override a revoke.

 

[RichardKYA]

You should create admin template modifications instead.

I haven't created a temp mod before, so I want to make sure I get it right before I update anything, is there a guide on how to do it correctly?

 

[Paul B]

This thread explains it: https://xenforo.com/community/threads/template-modifications-and-comparison.48412/

You will need to enable debug mode in order to access the dev menu though.

 

[RichardKYA]

Awesome, thank you

 

[Russ]

I haven't created a temp mod before, so I want to make sure I get it right before I update anything, is there a guide on how to do it correctly?

I have a resource which adjusts strictly all the colors of the emails:

https://xenforo.com/community/resources/emails-change-default-email-colors.4290/

If you wanted to check that out, it's basically a massive list of email template modifications

 

[RichardKYA]

@Russ

Thanks, I will check that out.

 

[RichardKYA]

Admin templates will be overwritten.

You should create admin template modifications instead.

Just to make sure, will e-mail template mods be overwritten as well or are these similar to Admin template mods?

 

[Paul B]

Template mods will never be overwritten.

 

[RichardKYA]

OK, thanks

I'll give it all a go and see what happens when I update.

One more quick question, does the execution order matter or should I just leave that set as 10?

 

[Paul B]

You can leave it set to 10.

 

[RichardKYA]

OK, thank you for your help

 

[RichardKYA]

OK. I have done the update to 1.4.7 and I still have the same permissions issue

It's not just in the user node permissions either. Any custom user permissions are not taking affect. I can set all the permissions for a user to "Never" and it doesn't even work.

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Must be aMember. *******s.

I don't know why they need to affect the permissions combo. Not a happy bunny right now.

 

[RichardKYA]

Hello @Brogan,

I'm still having the same permissions update issue, but I have noticed that it only happens to members that are not explicitly made Admin or Mods. Members that ARE explicitly made Admin or Mods update without an issue regardless of their user group, so someone that is_admin doesn't have to be in the admin user group and can be in any other user group and their user permissions and node permissions update correctly, same goes for people that are is_moderator. Whereas, someone that is NOT is_admin or _is_moderator do not update correctly and have the issues shown in the videos.

I have finally got in contact with aMember and I asking them to do the same tests and I am currently waiting for a reply, but I thought I would also ask you as well just in case this is something that can be reproduce your installation. I know you tried it out for me the other day, which I appreciate you taking the time to do, but I am not sure if you tried an is_admin account or a standard account, so I thought I would ask just to be sure?

Thank you

 

[RichardKYA]

Problem solved!

aMember sent me an updated version of their plugin xenforo.php file which fixed the issue.

I can only assume the is_admin and is_moderator thing occurred because they protect these groups differently.