UK Online Safety Regulations and impact on Forums

Maybe just do it without the hand? Ok so that doesn't prove liveness but it's easy to do and I'm sure it would fail if a photo was held up. Could be worth trying that?
 
eva2000 said:
I thought I would try creating a minimal viable product (MVP) for age verification using the Cloudflare platform, including pages, workers, and AI gateway, and so far, so good. The costs for input + output tokens + image = $0.000308 to $0.000474 per submission. That's $0.308 to $0.474 per 1,000 image submissions. Costs of 3rd parties have been mentioned in this thread, how does that compare?

For this MVP:
  • No personal identification is collected or stored
  • No session tracking or user accounts
  • Images are processed in-memory only
  • No database or persistent storage mechanisms are implemented
  • Criteria for determining age certificate of >18yrs or not is a work in progress and would need testing against false selfie submissions heh. But thought I'd see what I could come up with :D
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Ide buy that for a dollar.
 
It looks like it was a lot of work and really helpful. I hope it becomes available :-) Not only are the other solutions really expensive, but some are slower as well.
 
MentaL said:
Fake cam drivers exist mind.
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Quite a few of the commercial offerings seem to limit which cameras can be selected as a feed forcing you to use a built in one, ahem not that my very first thought when testing some of them was subvert things to see if I could feed in a video via a virtual device...
 
The fact that someone has actually taken the time and effort to create this is very impressive - and it looked like it was just about there. Worked fine on computer.
 
It's extremely impressive work and sounds like it's just as effective as the commercial offerings and might actually offer a solution where the site owner can cover the cost.
 
I feel like I've drawn a blank. Shufti have stopped being helpful (and your trial didn't sound great to me @chillibear ), OneID is not the easiest and Uk only, and only works for people who normally have online banking. Some people might not. Verifymy and Yoti just silly high prices. Luciciditi - not impressed after trying theirs - it kept not loading properly on the demo. Private ID haven't replied. I liked the one Google had (the Private ID one) - quick and simple. And @eva2000 's was also quick and simple!
 
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Alvin63 said:
Shufti have stopped being helpful (and your trial didn't sound great to me)
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It was fine, few head scratches whilst working out the parameters to submit to their API, but the product worked. I'd have preferred to have an option where I could offer a selection of (age verification) options in one user journey, but I could work around that by simply offering multiple journeys. The wide selection of tools was appealing. Not 100% as comfortable with their privacy policy as some others and the up-front credit are the two off putting factors for me, so for now I'll not be jumping ship.
Alvin63 said:
Verifymy and Yoti just silly high prices
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Although VeryifyMy do offer the Stores API I am using - which is pay-as-you-go and £1 per check (granted rather a lot compared to eva2000's test code!). It just seems their more bespoke offerings have a high onboarding fee. I'm okay enough with £1 for the numbers I'll be doing, either as cost recovery or just paying for some myself. Granted I have no idea how well it will work when exposed to a world of IDs and so forth! Maybe I'll be back at square one! Still it is sitting there as my reserve option depending on the Children's risk guidance.
 
Don't forget commercial age verification providers have a lot more running costs including paying various compliance and verification agencies for certification and testing which can be a paid cost to them every year as well :)

MentaL said:
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Yup, haven't tested that aspect out yet
 
chillibear said:
It was fine, few head scratches whilst working out the parameters to submit to their API, but the product worked. I'd have preferred to have an option where I could offer a selection of (age verification) options in one user journey, but I could work around that by simply offering multiple journeys. The wide selection of tools was appealing. Not 100% as comfortable with their privacy policy as some others and the up-front credit are the two off putting factors for me, so for now I'll not be jumping ship.

Although VeryifyMy do offer the Stores API I am using - which is pay-as-you-go and £1 per check (granted rather a lot compared to eva2000's test code!). It just seems their more bespoke offerings have a high onboarding fee. I'm okay enough with £1 for the numbers I'll be doing, either as cost recovery or just paying for some myself. Granted I have no idea how well it will work when exposed to a world of IDs and so forth! Maybe I'll be back at square one! Still it is sitting there as my reserve option depending on the Children's risk guidance.
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I just wouldn't want to pay £1 per verification. Don't want to charge members either.
 
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