I am somewhat in the same position. All I need is for Kier and Mike to get back to the good old ways of informing us on improvements being implemented, giving out video teasers, participating in relevant discussions, etc. Heck.... even Kier's barefooting and Mike's pictures with his girlfriend in Kier's kitchen would do the trick for me. vBulletin as a company is history in my book of life. It's either XenForo or I am out of forum-running business. If you don't stand for something in life, you'll fall for anything. Life is a b.itch, but I aint a slut. Just saying...I haven't renewed my licenses until there is an outcome not that any of my xf sites are doing anything anyway.