template hooks not omnipresent then?

[User]

I am looking at templates.xml and I see

<template title="forum_mark_read" version_id="1000015" version_string="1.0.0 Alpha 5">

at line 5,746.

It appears that the forum_mark_read template isn't part of a hook.

My question is whether this is by design or whether it is an oversight? Should all aspects of a template be accessible via a hook? Am I confused about hooks?

 

[Jeremy]

Template hooks were strategically placed within the templates themselves. You'll want to find <xen:hook>'s within the template.

 

[User]

That's what I mean though, there's no hook within that template nor is that template part of a hook. I don't want to post the code into the message so I just attached it.

Overly simplified, there is no:

<template>
    <xen:hook />
</template>

neither is there a:

<xen:hook>
    <template>
    </template>
</xen:hook>

for the forum_mark_read template.

 

[Forsaken]

That's what I mean though, there's no hook within that template nor is that template part of a hook. I don't want to post the code into the message so I just attached it.

Overly simplified, there is no:

<template>
    <xen:hook />
</template>

neither is there a:

<xen:hook>
    <template>
    </template>
</xen:hook>

for the forum_mark_read template.

Not every template has a hook, only ones that have a real use for them (sidebar, navigation etc).

 

[User]

Not every template has a hook, only ones that have a real use for them (sidebar, navigation etc).

Alright, that does answer my question. As for real use, well ..., different people different needs.
I would imagine that apart from the initial tedium of getting it done there is really no downside to include a hook for every template.

 

[Paul B]

You can request new template hooks here: http://xenforo.com/community/threads/template-hooks.7909/

Kier also had this to say not long ago, which may explain why they haven't been added to every possible location: http://xenforo.com/community/threads/how-to-use-template-hooks.13167/page-2#post-178995

 

[Forsaken]

Alright, that does answer my question. As for real use, well ..., different people different needs.
I would imagine that apart from the initial tedium of getting it done there is really no downside to include a hook for every template.

Real use -> widely used.

Most developers aren't going to make something to modify the mark read template, whereas they're likely to modify sidebar/navigation with most add-ons.

 

[User]

Most developers aren't going to make something to modify the mark read template, whereas they're likely to modify sidebar/navigation with most add-ons.

Yeah I can agree to that, ideally there would be an admincp option to disable the confirmations. Actually as ajnos pointed out in the hook request thread, a hook into that template won't actually yield the desired result.

 

[Mikey]

Why are you looking through an .xml file anyway?

 

[Jeremy]

Why are you looking through an .xml file anyway?

Most likely to search for <xen: hook> or something similar.