Lack of interest Seperate user management and mailing users in admin permissions

[estranged]

Currently if you allow an admin to manage users they can also send mail to all users. I believe this has nothing to do with managing users. I allow them to manage users for editing signatures, avatars or things like that if needed. I have 90.000+ registered members and I am not comfortable with giving this permission to my admins. My ip would be blocked by providers and my server would be suspended probably if such thing happens. I think there must be an additional permission called Email Users

They also have the permission of rebuilding caches which would not be so nice for a large site.

 

[Rigel Kentaurus]

Currently if you allow an admin to manage users they can also send mail to all users. I believe this has nothing to do with managing users. I allow them to manage users for editing signatures, avatars or things like that if needed. I have 90.000+ registered members and I am not comfortable with giving this permission to my admins. My ip would be blocked by providers and my server would be suspended probably if such thing happens. I think there must an additional permission called Email Users

They also have the permission of rebuilding caches which would not be so nice for a large site.

Agreed. First post liked.

Especially the "rebuild caches" is a "please die, now" button in my site (and it is only 300k posts), not to say that nobody should be re-indexing but the super admin

A rogue admin could also email your 90,000 users if you ever have a quarrel, you don't want anybody with that power

 

[estranged]

Mike does not agree unfortunately

I don't see how rebuild caches is necessarily dangerous for an admin to have.

Emailing users is included under the edit/manage users permission, so that is the expected behavior.

 

[Rigel Kentaurus]

Mike does not agree unfortunately

That is an old post, and Mike is a reasonable person.

Plus, I agree with him, build caches is not dangerous for an Admin
BUT it is dangerous for a Mod that was given admin privileges so he can manage users

Different things

 

[estranged]

That was a reply to the same issue. I was talking about a mod given only "manage bans" permission, if there is such thing. As technically it is an admin. But not super admin.

http://xenforo.com/community/threads/not-a-bug-as-designed-admin-permissions-issue.13604/

 

[Onimua]

... That is an old post, and Mike is a reasonable person. ...

Three days is old?

 

[Rigel Kentaurus]

Three days is old?

I was almost sure I read that a couple months ago. My bad.

I still insist these should be separate permissions, and making that change is not that hard.
Stating that it works as designed does not mean that is the final design. It just works as it is designed right now, if new requirements are discovered, and they are reasonable, there is room for improvement.

 

[Atilla CONKER]

i have doubts about a persons state of mind if he thinks rebuilding caches is not dangerous for any admin.

 

[Rigel Kentaurus]

i have doubts about a persons state of mind if he thinks rebuilding caches is not dangerous for any admin.

No need to insult anyone

Actually, that is ok for someone that is the admin and owner of the forum. However, I do want to delegate some admin tasks to people that I know and trust, without giving them access to features and areas I do not want them peeking to, neither to buttons that they might accidentally click