vB5: 57 queries, 11.79 seconds.
vBulletin 5 beta 11 - 94-101 queries
vBulletin 5 beta 10 - 110 queries
vBulletin 5 beta 14 - approx. 60 queries
vBulletin 4 - 14 queries
Xenforo 1.1x - 11 queries forum home
Xenforo 1.1x - 11 queries on a 1 page thread
Xenforo 1.1x - 11 queries on a 38 page thread
Xenforo 1.1x - as low as 6-7 queries (with optimizations)
IPB - 123 queries for page 2 with a topic containing 400 posts and 61 followers
IPB - 49 queries on a 2 page thread (note)
- 103 queries to show a thread that is 123 pages. (note)
- 8 queries to show the main forum index page (note)
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ManagerJosh said: ↑
vBulletin 5 beta 11 requires between 94 to 101 Asserts to display a thread. This is an improvement from beta 10 which required 110 Asserts.AndyB said: ↑
vB4 takes about 14 queries to display a thread.-GR- said: ↑
Just turned debug mode on my one IPB site. It is 8 queries to show the main forum index page and 103 queries to show a thread that is 123 pages.
I don't have any cache turned on other then the built in IPB stuff.Important comparison issues: # of mods installed.
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Stock install? No mods?-GR- said: ↑
I just checked my XF site, forum index is 11 queries and thread view is 11 queries on a one page thread.hellreturn said: ↑
IPB - 123 queries for page 2 with a topic containing 400 posts and 61 followers. Do note: While navigating to next/previous pages count is 18-23.-GR- said: ↑
Just checked a 38 page thread and it was still at 11 queries.sadikb said: ↑
I just saw Paul M's Area 52, which is running VB5 Beta 14. It has Debug on, so you can see that they have reduced it to 60 queries. Still too (too!) many for an empty site but I guess it can be called an improvement.
The feeling I get right now from VB is that they are indeed focusing on performance, which is a good thing. Whether the architectural design of the software is capable of getting down to XF level of performance, I do not think so.R_A said: ↑
I've seen it stated Xenforo has as low as 6-7 queries.