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Proof, if it were needed, that we know very little about the human brain

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Brogan, Sep 29, 2011.

  1. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

  2. jmurrayhead

    jmurrayhead Well-Known Member

    Amazing, indeed.
  3. Jeremy

    Jeremy Well-Known Member

    I'm stunned, that's all I can say. Thanks for the share (I've sent it on to some of my friends via Twitter).
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  4. Floris

    Floris Guest

    Only imagine how many calculations are needed for someone to observe a situation, realize what it is, anticipate it, react to it, and without a mistake. And yet, we think it's hard to do 91949491 - 49194 * 2 ..
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  5. Trombones13

    Trombones13 Well-Known Member

    As a musician, I understand the difficulty in playing a piece by ear...doing it after just listening to the piece--and on the piano, no less, which combines multiple parts (i.e. on trombone, I'd only play the melody, without the chords as well)--is rather impressive. I know several people with autism and their intelligence and abilities are always astonishing. :)
  6. Walter

    Walter Well-Known Member

    This is called the Savant syndrome (see my link to the Wikipedia) and only a few hundred people in the world are known to have it.

    There is one Savant who is able to fly with a helicopter over a large city like London and draw a gigantic detailed picture of the whole city without any error....

    Another example is Kim Peek who inspired Rain Man.
  7. jmurrayhead

    jmurrayhead Well-Known Member

    I think it's more impressive that he can fly over a city...er...wait...you meant by plane, didn't you?
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  8. Walter

    Walter Well-Known Member

    I'm more impressed by any Savant than by your ability to make jokes :)
  9. EQnoble

    EQnoble Well-Known Member

    It is proof positive that when you deprive yourself of a sense every other sense becomes stronger.

    I would also guess that aside from whatever disabilities (I mean after watching him...I almost feel like it is wrong to call it that.) he may have, being able to replicate the sounds he can hear would make him one in the small group of people that can hear absolute pitch. Maybe because of not having sight, he can feel the pressure waves of the vibrations whereas you or I would have to deal with all of the input going to our visual cortex (which is a big part of where our brain use is dedicated to) and merely hear sounds. Not having to visually process literally everything in sight in ones world may give them an ability to process things we simply don't have available process for as a quote-unquote "Fully abled persons".
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  10. EQnoble

    EQnoble Well-Known Member

  11. AdamD

    AdamD Well-Known Member

    I was really amazed when he listened to that song on the guys Ipod thing, then played it back instantly

    It's just, well, amazing

    Can you imagine what a human would be capable of, if all the gifts we know of so far, that Savants have, were unlocked for everyone?
  12. jmurrayhead

    jmurrayhead Well-Known Member

    Oh come on now...it wasn't that bad...
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  13. HydraulicJack

    HydraulicJack Well-Known Member

    Yes! Such an unusually skilled person may also be referred to as a savant (from the French, and in the instance of a female: savante).
    HJ, MA: Psychology
  14. kyrgyz

    kyrgyz Well-Known Member

    Two questions arise. Can this kind of abilities be replicated and turned off at will?

    Jeff Hawkins' presentation video on how brain science will change computing

    Treo creator Jeff Hawkins urges us to take a new look at the brain -- to see it not as a fast processor, but as a memory system that stores and plays back experiences to help us predict, intelligently, what will happen next.
  15. EQnoble

    EQnoble Well-Known Member

    Your brain would still need basic instructions at least to pour over that many experiences (any experience can be put under a microscope and further examined which would require more processing..example.. yesterday I went for a ride in my car, under a microscope with more detail and processing I recall going for a ride in my car and seeing two people on a bike built for two) and then execute a decision making process against that memory system filled with chunks of data in such a short amount of time. So if anything the memory itself must just be a piece of the brain system and not the entirety of it.

    For my theory... it could just be a fast processor who's architecture is capable of rewriting itself and debugging itself when wired efficiently and the rest of the brain a storage bank with some chunks acting like buffer overflow protection like canary words stored at random as an array and wired according the brain's constantly rewritten architecture.

    All we can do is theorize for now and try to reverse engineer it down to it's most basic functions. It is all pretty much theoryville at this point...but it has to start somewhere.

    anyways that's enough out of me for today...I don't even know what I am talking about anymore. My brain stopped working.

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