Okay, I have assigned group permissions for members, and node permissions. I'm confused because I want certain areas to be private for 'clan members only', yet people who are not in that group are able to see those threads even though when I use the 'user test permissions' to follow what they should be able to see, it seems to work the way I want. When I use the test user permissions' and run it using one perticular person who is not in that group, it shows to be working. But, I got an e-mail reply from a non-member of a 'watched thread' which is that same private (see subject title-only) thread! This means he must actually be able to see forum threads from which he is able to watch? He has NO user permissions at all, his group permissions says cannot have access and the node permission for that thread is set so that he can only SEE the subject title of those thread but NOT the contents, and the node permissions say that he can on I'm wondering how many others are able to do this now so I'm puzzled. I have the nodes permission set so that non-clan members can only SEE the subject-name of the thread, but not the actual post (which is what I want) ~ And I verified all of this from 'user-test-view' for each person.