I have 2 user groups. The first one is the Registered group that is default. The next group is a Members group. I set up a User Group Promotion so that when a user hit 5 posts they were placed in the Members group. The only difference between these 2 groups is the permissions on 2 forums. Registered are not allowed to start threads in these 2 forums. Members can start threads. This appeared to be working as I've had a test account under 5 posts and it was not able to post. I have looked at the forum as other users who have over 5 posts and they can post. Today I had a user ask me why they can't post in those forums. I looked and they are in the Registered group and secondary Members. They have 285 posts. They don't have any special permissions. I can't see why this one user can't get in. Is there something I am doing wrong? edit: I am testing permissions on other users and I am seeing the same problem. So some users can start threads and others can't. Though they all appear to have the same permissions. edit: I looked in the database and I can see a lot of users who are not in the secondary Members group who have over 5 posts.