Hi, I am the proprietor of a very small gaming e-commerce website, we were running PHPBB many moons ago. Some of our members convinced us to upgrade to Vbulletin, telling us about how PHPBB couldn't do this and PHPBB couldn't do that. Well, after a couple of years on Vbulletin, and about a dozen security breaches of our forums, we'd had enough. Today we purchased XenForo. Data conversion was a breeze. It actually converted over all of our attachments, files, everything. Amazing. I swear even when I converted FROM VB4 to VB4 (don't ask) it lost data. The XenForo admin panel is much less of a clusterf### than VB4's admin CP (which is impossible to navigate). XenForo support pages actually give me the correct information when trying to find a setting in the admin panel, as opposed to VB4's outdated documentation. Only time will tell if XenForo is secure, but VB4 was a piece of swiss cheese (get it? Lots of holes). Got tired of cleaning up the script kiddiez graffiti. As far as I am concerned VB4 was dropped by their maker entirely, left wide open to backdoors, just to try to get VB4 customers to upgrade to VB5. VB didn't get my money this go around - XenForo did! Thanks for existing!