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New Anti-Spam service available soon.

Discussion in 'General XenForo Discussion and Feedback' started by Slavik, Dec 24, 2012.

  1. Slavik

    Slavik XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    In the continuing battle of forum owners vs spam bots, it is never an easy task to create an all in one solution which will lock the spammers out for good. Amazing addons can fall prey to an update rending them useless, or less effective.

    Even services such as StopForumSpam are now queried by bots to see if they match any data and change as required to bypass these systems.

    And ultimately, a manual spammer registration can nearly always bypass any system in place.

    However, in the near future, we hope to release a new XenForo only**, Anti-Spam service which should provide an additional layer of security against the spam bots, even manual registrations.

    Whilst the exact details on how the service works will be kept under wraps for the moment, it is already being trialed on several sites and generating very positive results.

    The system is also cumulative as you would expect, meaning the more people who use the system, the more effective it becomes. As such, it will also be provided with an easy to use snippet of code which addon developpers can include in their own Anti-Spam addons to link in with the service.

    Hopefully, our unique ways of detecting and preventing the bots from registering will give all XenForo forum owners a robust security net against spammers of all types.

    Stay tuned for more information :)

    ** We may expand the service to cover non-xenforo boards in the future.
    wickedstangs, ANSK, JVCode and 14 others like this.
  2. Kevin

    Kevin Well-Known Member

    "We" as in "XenForo" or "we" as in a 3rd party?
  3. Slavik

    Slavik XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    3rd Party of course.

    Any official XenForo services / updates / releases are all posted in the announcements section ;)
  4. Rodrigo Farcas

    Rodrigo Farcas Active Member

    Thanks for this @Slavik
  5. lazer

    lazer Well-Known Member

    Sounds intriguing. (y)
  6. oman

    oman Well-Known Member

    Sounds great Slavik. Good luck! :)
  7. Mouth

    Mouth Well-Known Member

    I'm interested, if your looking for more trial sites.
  8. whynot

    whynot Well-Known Member

    Is it based on a list of reported IP addresses, usernames,email addresses?
  9. Slavik

    Slavik XenForo Moderator Staff Member

  10. whynot

    whynot Well-Known Member

    Hopefully it will be successful.
  11. Slavik

    Slavik XenForo Moderator Staff Member

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  12. SchmitzIT

    SchmitzIT Well-Known Member

    Will this be a paid service or a free service?
  13. Slavik

    Slavik XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Free for XenForo users ;)
    SchmitzIT, Dan, Blue and 1 other person like this.
  14. whynot

    whynot Well-Known Member

    Is it going to be installed here on this forum?
    Edrondol likes this.
  15. oman

    oman Well-Known Member

    No third party add ons get installed here @ XF. Or at least that's what I heard.
  16. whynot

    whynot Well-Known Member

    That's good news for NFL Jerseys.
  17. Slavik

    Slavik XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    A small update.

    In the small time the service has been up and running on the 20 or so forums it has been active, the API has stopped over 80,000 bot registrations.

    To break that down, thats 20,000 a day, or 1000 per forum per day stopped.

    And as more forums are being added, it is becoming more effective.
    ANSK, Deebs, iTuN3r and 1 other person like this.
  18. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Well-Known Member

    Hopefully it's something that actually stops bots for technical reasons, rather than just stopping them because of obscurity (and the bots just don't know about it yet).

    Like with you already knowing how it works (and bot authors surely will at some point), could you build a bot to circumvent it if you wanted to? Hopefully the answer is no. :)
  19. Slavik

    Slavik XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    It runs on 2 teirs of detection.

    Frontend, eg Do they fail the FoolHoneyPot random boxes or Registration Form Timer and register in 1 second flat? Any fails are recorded and logged.

    The Backend is different, and what makes the system unique. And unless those involved in how the backend actually works let the information out, they won't be able to work it out from the data that is provided via the API. Even if they did find out, it would do them little good ;)
  20. ManagerJosh

    ManagerJosh Well-Known Member

    hey Slavik

    Any chance any of us can join in to contribute to the project? I have several data set ideas that could help minimize spam.

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