BrettC
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It would at least appear the XenForo team has a form of Valve Time.I guess their definition of "coming weeks", and mine, are just vastly different.
It would at least appear the XenForo team has a form of Valve Time.I guess their definition of "coming weeks", and mine, are just vastly different.
Not just yours...I guess their definition of "coming weeks", and mine, are just vastly different.
DiscourseWith the lack of new version release, lack of information on development progress, purposeful intent to ignore concerns and communicate ... all while months and years ago saying XenForo would do better at just these things, it's logical to give thought to and consider what's the next step for your site and community if XenForo is finished.
What would be your next step in this scenario?
If it's not broke why fix it, springs to mind.
Well, it's generally recommended for the security updates contained in it. I agree that one should be careful to ensure that it doesn't break anything, so perhaps first testing on a staging installation on your local PC first is a good idea for a large update.I'd also argue that just because an update comes out doesn't mean you have to "update for updatings sake".
Genuinely, have you thought about hiring a ‘media/comms’ person to manage the community?
Assume if there are no updates, then there are no updates! And then next update will come when it's ready. But point taken.@Chris D - some sort of communication has to happen here in my opinion. I don’t think this is a good look for the business.
Genuinely, have you thought about hiring a ‘media/comms’ person to manage the community?
Good comment. much enjoyed.I’ll play devil’s advocate for a moment.
PHP is a very fast-moving ecosystem now. Standards evolve, major versions deprecate features quickly, and frameworks across the board push for stricter typing, modern patterns, and more rigorous security by default. Maintaining a codebase the size of XenForo’s—much of which dates back over a decade—is a huge ongoing task in itself, even before adding any new features.
Yes, the communication from the XF team hasn’t been ideal. But I don’t think that means XenForo is “finished.” If anything, the silence probably reflects the reality that modernising and upgrading this massive PHP platform takes serious time and caution. The forum software market is much smaller now than it was during the vBulletin era, and the expectations for stability are higher. One bad rushed release could break thousands of communities.
We also have to remember something important:
These threads don’t help motivation.
It’s easy to complain when we haven’t heard anything, but from a developer standpoint, it’s a lot harder to work under constant speculation, doom posts, and pressure. The team is working on 2.4—Slavik confirmed it— we knew it anyway - and they’ve always said they prefer to show things when they’re confident, not when they’re halfway done.
So while frustration is understandable, it’s also worth being realistic about the complexity behind the scenes. XenForo isn’t going anywhere. It just takes time to push a mature product forward without breaking the foundations that made it successful in the first place.
I understand the concern, but I don’t think threads like this are inherently harmful. Forums are built around discussion — that includes sharing concerns, frustrations, and different perspectives in a constructive way.Threads like this one isn't going to bring communication back.
I think it's better that this gets locked and the OP gets spoken to about his comments. It's what i would have done.
The XF team can easily silence all critics by telling all customers what is going on. But they choose not to, so you cannot blame concerned customers here imho.Threads like this one isn't going to bring communication back.
I think it's better that this gets locked and the OP gets spoken to about his comments. It's what i would have done.
Yeah but you have also had a forum for years now and only have 2 members, both whom you continuously ban and unban at will and force them to call you "boss" lolI think it's better that this gets locked and the OP gets spoken to about his comments. It's what i would have done.
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