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Does anyone else not care about SEO, or is completely passive about it?

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Brogan, Jun 2, 2011.

  1. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    I read all these posts about SEO and note how some people get themselves all worked up about it; worrying about their google ranking, where they appear in searches, how to improve it, even paying for advice, etc.

    I can quite honestly say I've never given it a second thought.
    Yes it might be pleasing if my site appears at or near the top of a search, but I couldn't care less if it doesn't.

    I did a few experiments when we switched to XenForo earlier this year, to see just how good the built in SEO is, and just by adding a single word to a Page title, it pushed us from page 8 to the top of page 1.

    Other than that I have done nothing.

    For the 3 years prior when I was using phpBB software, again I did nothing at all to do with SEO, and really wasn't bothered at all about it.

    In fact, our most valuable content is hidden from guests, so it doesn't even appear in search engine listings.

    My opinion is if there is content on your site which is useful to others, they will find it.
    Mostly this will be from members posting links elsewhere, which others will then click on and likewise, if they find the content useful they will also pass it on.

    I used to be the same about my AV/Home Cinema equipment; constantly tweaking, adjusting, testing, reading articles on how to improve it, tweaking again, retesting, etc.
    Then it dawned on me that I wasn't actually using it for what it was intended.

    Now I just use it and enjoy it.

    (This is of course my personal opinion and not a reflection on XenForo or its built in SEO capability.)
  2. James

    James Well-Known Member

    You summed it up for me. I create/use forums for enjoyment and I very rarely find forums via search. If I do find them via search, it's even less likely that I'll revisit it.

    If I'm searching, I find the information and leave. I've never found a forum via search in all my time on the internet, because it's not its SERP ranking that interests me.
  3. Forsaken

    Forsaken Well-Known Member

    Theres a few things I'll spend time on, but for the most part much of SEO is just hype and really is just best practices.

    On vBulletin I'd have spent more time fine tuning things, but on XenForo there isn't all that much more that can be done to optimize it.
  4. EQnoble

    EQnoble Well-Known Member

    Two years ago I would have thought SEO was a title for the guy under the CEO in some company. I know what it is now but really do not make a fuss so much about it either. I don't really have any logic behind it other than I have other things to stress about. I must admit it tickled me a bit to have the first result searching xxsu @google point to a post of mine here. I really don't know enough about SEO in general to waste my time fooling with it though so I don't think my opinion on his subject ends up weighing much lol.
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  5. SilverCircle

    SilverCircle Well-Known Member

    Fact: If you have quality content and follow a few basic rules (i.e. valid HTML code, good document structure), you can ignore all the so-called wannabe SEO experts. Your blog/forum/whatever will still be doing fine.

    If your site is competing with thousands of others and basically provides the same content as these competitors - then *maybe* some SEO rules could help.

    For all those addicted to numbers, page ranks and general ranking of things, here is an excellent article with some food for thoughts.
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  6. principia

    principia Well-Known Member

    If you have quality content, google will find you ;)

    Only thing i have is a sitemap. thats all.
  7. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    I don't even have a sitemap.
  8. Legend

    Legend Member

    I don't care about SEO, though my websites are for hobby purposes, and not business related. I'm sure if I wanted to make an income off of my site, I would be all over the SEO stuff. But for now, I could care less about where I am in google searches. I do prefer the very top, but Im not going to mess around with keywords to get there. I have better stuff to do with my time, like take over the world.
  9. Kim

    Kim Well-Known Member

    I have never taken much notice TBH.. but here is my experience..

    My first IPB skinning site had a Google page ranking of 6 and a search for anything related to IPB skins or styles would result in my site being #1 or 2

    My second IPB skinning site had a Google page ranking of 4 and solid first page results in searches.

    My Xenforo skinning site is no where in results.. which I attribute to poor SEO on my WordPress front page.. as a result i am going to kill it, and try for web pages with an RSS dynamic feed that have always worked for me in the past.
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  10. Wuebit

    Wuebit Well-Known Member

    Agree ive never done anything tbh "sitemap" that's about it

    Don't agree with this tho :p
    Always playing with my AMP after the "kids" move them around (All the dam time lol) :C /cry
    Dan likes this.
  11. Peggy

    Peggy Well-Known Member

    I honestly couldn't care less about SEO. I have a sitemap, and it's interesting to see the spiders chomping on my content.
    But really, as long as my site gets indexed on Google and yahoo so that people can find it, that's all I really care about.
    My sites are there for enjoyment, not to make me any money.
  12. Markos

    Markos Well-Known Member

    Not true in all cases...depends on niche, on luck...if you have quality content but you are not popular your site is not search engine friendly...:-(

    In most of cases good seo depends on 2 factors: quantity of "good" content and quality of external links. With quality of external links i assume that good and often updated websites of your niche should link you. This can be easy in some niches, very difficult in others. Because if your forum is about a "rich niche" is difficult that a competitor link you...
  13. jmurrayhead

    jmurrayhead Well-Known Member

    SEO is the holy grail to running a successful web site. I can't believe you people are saying it's not important. Ludicrous! o_O
  14. Mikey

    Mikey Well-Known Member

    I was happy when my site hit #1 on google for my chosen term. It's something which most of my sites do for my chosen search terms, but I don't do anything special for it, and it doesn't bug me too much either. I simply set meta tags up and away it goes..
  15. Digital Doctor

    Digital Doctor Well-Known Member

    SEO is very important for forum shoppers.
    People are willing to spend dearly to make sure they are doing well with SEO (vBSEO).
  16. Markos

    Markos Well-Known Member

    If you have a little forum with a little user activity, IMHO is very very difficult to have a good seo. You need first to create a good community and AFTER the creation of a good community...you can jump to seo competition. :)
  17. jmurrayhead

    jmurrayhead Well-Known Member

    I think you missed my sarcasm ;)
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  18. Markos

    Markos Well-Known Member

    For me it's true that the SEO is the Holy Grail if you want to run a succesful website...it's the most important source of traffic today. :)

    But if you run a forum just forum fun, you can ignore it.
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  19. Forsaken

    Forsaken Well-Known Member

    Where exactly does SEO end and the hype begin however?

    At the end of the day, if you've followed the best practices, and made sure you have quality content exactly what else can you do? After a certain point all you're doing is wasting more and more time which could have been spent posting more quality content.
  20. Peggy

    Peggy Well-Known Member

    That happens to you quite often, yes? lol

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