AI Summary Generation

AI Summary Generation [Paid] 1.0.2

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This addon needs to demonstrate that:

(1) the summaries show up in google search results
(2) GOOGLE loves the AI summaries.

I like point form where possible.

This feels like a wall of text - the small font size makes it less appealing. I don't know engine noises enough to know if the summary is relevant.

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Should the title be in the summary ? (I think it should) - does google want the title in the summary ? Can I add a picture to the summary ?

Should AI make an image to go with the summary ?
 
Sal Collaziano said:
Do you have any recommendations on how to improve the likeliness that the add-on achieves those results?
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Google will like it if the summary text:
  1. Entices the reader to read the thread OR clicks on internal links. (low bounce rate)
  2. Is concise and informative and does not bore the reader to death. i.e. the user will read it and not leave the site immediately. (low bounce rate)
  3. Includes keywords / terms that are popular in Google for the niche of the site.
  4. Uses wording, slang common for the niche.
For example: if the summary reads like a board meeting summary, its not enticing. The page will become a top exit page and the summary an obstruction to the reader. The summary should not be a list of who said what, because it doesn't matter to the reader who said what. The reader is mostly interested in what information is being discussed in the thread and where they can find it.
 
Alpha1 said:
Google will like it if the summary text:
  1. Entices the reader to read the thread OR clicks on internal links. (low bounce rate)
  2. Is concise and informative and does not bore the reader to death. i.e. the user will read it and not leave the site immediately. (low bounce rate)
  3. Includes keywords / terms that are popular in Google for the niche of the site.
  4. Uses wording, slang common for the niche.
For example: if the summary reads like a board meeting summary, its not enticing. The page will become a top exit page and the summary an obstruction to the reader. The summary should not be a list of who said what, because it doesn't matter to the reader who said what. The reader is mostly interested in what information is being discussed in the thread and where they can find it.
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There's an option to use a custom prompt that should cover all of this. The custom prompt would influence how the content is presented (writing style, for example, and/or using specific niche keywords).
 
JamesBrown said:
Purchased but not installed yet.

For me, this banner is unnecessary

You don't have permission to regenerate AI summaries.

The absence of a regenerate button is notice enough, is it easily removed?
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All taken care of in the latest version, 1.0.1. You should receive a link to download via email - or it can be downloaded from our website.
 
I would call it Summary, not AI summary.
I'd add an image as well

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You could use an image from the thread if there is one.
Or people should be able to add images manually.

Are admins allowed to edit the AI generated first draft ?

Are admins allowed to skip AI and make their own ?
 
Digital Doctor said:
wouldn't you want the summary to show up in AMP pages ?
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Google abandoned AMP in 2021, is not a high ranking content factor anymore, is basically useless nowadays.

The only suggestion I can think of at the moment is to use Font Awesome icons instead of emojis, so that it integrates better with Xenforo.

Let's say it looks very similar to Google's AI Overview. For highly visited sites with lots of comments in discussions, it's a great add-on. For everyone else, it's obviously not useful. Great job, I wouldn't change much at this point.
 
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This has great potential.

Do you envisage auto re-prompting depending on downvote ratio i.e. if AI summary is pants and gets severely downvoted I would want to alert an admin at the least (or maybe even auto regen a summary by someone with appropriate permissions).

Is there criteria for summaries i.e. do not trigger where thread < X posts, where total number of words is < X (whole thread) etc. You don't want summaries for zero content threads.
 
Sal Collaziano said:
Sal Collaziano updated AI Summary Generation with a new update entry:

Now using XenForo's template system



Read the rest of this update entry...
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This single change to use the template system for css and js has reduced the on-page code by 80+% (nearly 300 lines of code are now being cached). Performance should be a lot better now.

I do see that there are still a lot on inline styles being used and one on-page <script> being referenced. These could also be cached if reworked.
 
Can we change the GPT instructions? I would be aiming for inviting readable summaries. I asked ChatGPT for a "readable, inviting summary of your thread, with headlines, key points, and takeaways. I feel this looks much better than a solid paragraph of text.

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🔧 Engine Noise on the Kia Forte EX – Forum Discussion Summary​


📝 The Issue Raised​


  • An owner of a Forte EX noticed a clattering/knocking sound at warm idle.
  • Noise seemed to come from the valvetrain area and was not related to injectors or the A/C idler.
  • Switching from the factory 5W-20 oil to heavier grades (5W-30 or 10W-30) reduced the noise under load, but didn’t remove it entirely.


💬 Community Reactions​


  • Oil Debate:
    • Some members argued 5W-20 is safe because modern engines are designed for it and manufacturers stand by it.
    • Others preferred heavier oils for peace of mind and long-term durability, even if fuel economy dropped slightly.
  • Possible Causes Identified:
    • Timing chain tensioner – suspected by the original poster and echoed by others.
    • Hydraulic lifters – suggested but later dismissed (the 2.0L engine doesn’t use them).
    • Intake manifold – raised by a later contributor as the potential culprit.
  • Other Owners’ Experiences:
    • Multiple Forte drivers, including newer model years, reported the same idle noise.
    • At least one owner had their car in the shop for a timing tensioner replacement.
    • Another noted the issue appeared immediately after a routine service.


📌 Key Takeaways​


  • The noise is real: It’s not just one car — several owners noticed it across different years.
  • Oil changes help (a little): Thicker oil quieted things under load but didn’t cure the idle knock.
  • Most likely culprits: Timing chain tensioner, intake manifold, or possibly just a characteristic of the engine.
  • No single fix confirmed: The thread ends without a clear resolution, though warranty coverage and dealer checks are recommended.


👉 Overall: This thread highlights a common Forte concern where owners swap ideas, debate oil, and share experiences. While the mystery wasn’t fully solved, the conversation points to a few likely suspects and shows it’s an issue others have run into — making it worth checking with a dealer if you hear the same noise.
 
Digital Doctor said:
You could use an image from the thread if there is one.
Or people should be able to add images manually.

Are admins allowed to edit the AI generated first draft ?

Are admins allowed to skip AI and make their own ?
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We'll keep the addition of an image on our radar. I'm assuming this is for SEO value. The reason I asked you if you had any specific recommendations in this reply was because I'm not on top of the best SEO practices these days. It's something I spent a lot of time researching and applying years ago, but I've just run out of time. So I appreciate all and any input I receive.

Adding the ability to allow edits to the AI generated content is on our to do list.

Allowing admins to skip the AI generation and submit their own isn't yet on our to do list, but I've made a note of your desire for the capability.
Max Fridman said:
Google abandoned AMP in 2021, is not a high ranking content factor anymore, is basically useless nowadays.

The only suggestion I can think of at the moment is to use Font Awesome icons instead of emojis, so that it integrates better with Xenforo.

Let's say it looks very similar to Google's AI Overview. For highly visited sites with lots of comments in discussions, it's a great add-on. For everyone else, it's obviously not useful. Great job, I wouldn't change much at this point.
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Thank you for the kind words. We're going to continue updating and improving this add-on. I've made a note about using Font Awesome instead of emojis.
ichpen said:
This has great potential.

Do you envisage auto re-prompting depending on downvote ratio i.e. if AI summary is pants and gets severely downvoted I would want to alert an admin at the least (or maybe even auto regen a summary by someone with appropriate permissions).

Is there criteria for summaries i.e. do not trigger where thread < X posts, where total number of words is < X (whole thread) etc. You don't want summaries for zero content threads.
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Thank you. Yes, we have discussed having the AI Summary get automatically re-generated relating to voting. We just need to figure out the best way to implement it. Perhaps if a summary has at least X votes, and X percentage of them are negative, it gets regenerated.

Currently, any registered member can vote. I'm not sure if we'll need to add functionality that prohibits some people from voting (think malicious users)...

Also on our radar is functionality where an admin can turn on summaries for threads with at least [X] amount of pages. 1=ALL pages...
bzcomputers said:
This single change to use the template system for css and js has reduced the on-page code by 80+% (nearly 300 lines of code are now being cached). Performance should be a lot better now.

I do see that there are still a lot on inline styles being used and one on-page <script> being referenced. These could also be cached if reworked.
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Thank you. We're working on this last bit of inline styles (and the script) today.
JamesBrown said:
Can we change the GPT instructions? I would be aiming for inviting readable summaries. I asked ChatGPT for a "readable, inviting summary of your thread, with headlines, key points, and takeaways. I feel this looks much better than a solid paragraph of text.

​

🔧 Engine Noise on the Kia Forte EX – Forum Discussion Summary​


📝 The Issue Raised​


  • An owner of a Forte EX noticed a clattering/knocking sound at warm idle.
  • Noise seemed to come from the valvetrain area and was not related to injectors or the A/C idler.
  • Switching from the factory 5W-20 oil to heavier grades (5W-30 or 10W-30) reduced the noise under load, but didn’t remove it entirely.


💬 Community Reactions​


  • Oil Debate:
    • Some members argued 5W-20 is safe because modern engines are designed for it and manufacturers stand by it.
    • Others preferred heavier oils for peace of mind and long-term durability, even if fuel economy dropped slightly.
  • Possible Causes Identified:
    • Timing chain tensioner – suspected by the original poster and echoed by others.
    • Hydraulic lifters – suggested but later dismissed (the 2.0L engine doesn’t use them).
    • Intake manifold – raised by a later contributor as the potential culprit.
  • Other Owners’ Experiences:
    • Multiple Forte drivers, including newer model years, reported the same idle noise.
    • At least one owner had their car in the shop for a timing tensioner replacement.
    • Another noted the issue appeared immediately after a routine service.


📌 Key Takeaways​


  • The noise is real: It’s not just one car — several owners noticed it across different years.
  • Oil changes help (a little): Thicker oil quieted things under load but didn’t cure the idle knock.
  • Most likely culprits: Timing chain tensioner, intake manifold, or possibly just a characteristic of the engine.
  • No single fix confirmed: The thread ends without a clear resolution, though warranty coverage and dealer checks are recommended.


👉 Overall: This thread highlights a common Forte concern where owners swap ideas, debate oil, and share experiences. While the mystery wasn’t fully solved, the conversation points to a few likely suspects and shows it’s an issue others have run into — making it worth checking with a dealer if you hear the same noise.
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We designed our AI Summary layout based on what appears to be the industry standard. However, that doesn't mean we can't improve on it... This IS going to mean more scrolling. Some people may prefer a couple of paragraphs. But, obviously, some will prefer exactly what you and Digital Doctor are suggesting.

We may need to have this work in such a way where you CLICK a button to DISPLAY the summary - instead of just having it displayed on top of all discussions (with a generated summary). I'm not certain if that's necessary - but I have a feeling a good bunch of people will prefer not to have a long, long summary at the top. Of course, I could be entirely wrong...

We're taking time today to work on the layout produced by the add-on. In the meantime, you might want to try the custom prompt area - as you may be able to get bullet points and other layout changes that way. It's worth a shot.
 
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Okay, check out what we did as far as design of the summary USING ONLY the "custom prompt" option in the admin control panel:

Engine noise Forte EX...

Hello, I have a new Forte EX w/2.0 engine, and I have noticed a clattering noise while at idle with the engine warm. This noise is not the injector ticking noise, I know what that is and can hear it separately. It also should not be the AC idler, as my car is past the production date per...
kiaforteforum.com kiaforteforum.com

If you like the way that looks, I will add the custom prompt code to the bottom of this message. You need to add your domain as the BASE URL. For reference, we used DeepSeek for the summary you see at the link above.

The custom prompt option should give you good power as far as layout and display of the AI generated summary.

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Also, for the latest version (which will be available as 1.0.2 in a few minutes) we made further improvements concerning CSS and style enhancements. Most parts are now cached.

Code: 
Please analyze the following forum discussion content. The content includes post IDs like [123]...[/123] to identify individual posts. Write your response in concise English.

Config: BASE_URL = https://YOURDOMAIN.COM

Render every referenced post as EXACTLY this HTML: <sup><a href="BASE_URL/posts/POST_ID" target="blank" class="ai-summarylink">POST_ID</a></sup>
- Replace POST_ID with the numeric ID from markers (e.g., [123] → 123). Do NOT include any “#” before POST_ID in the link text. Use absolute URL only (prefix with BASE_URL).
Allowed HTML tags: <sup>, <a>, <br>, <b>. Allowed attributes: href, target, class. Do NOT use onclick or any other attributes.

Please use <b>..</b> to highlight important words and phrases.

Output format:
Keywords: Keyword1, Keyword2, Keyword3
Summary: A concise yet comprehensive English summary of the discussion, capturing the core points and conclusions that naturally includes the superscript anchors above.

<br><br><b>TL;DR:</b>
<br>✅ Point 1: One-line key takeaway.
<br>✅ Point 2: One-line key takeaway.
<br>✅ Point 3: One-line key takeaway.

<br><br><b>🔎 Key Insights:</b>
<br>Insight 1: Evidence or observation in one line.
<br>Insight 2: Evidence or observation in one line.

<br><br><b>🎯 Conclusion:</b>
<br>State the main conclusion in one to two short lines, using clear and plain English.

Content to analyze: {CONTENT}
 
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