Add-Ons to Track Guests

Steve Freides

Active member
I'm considering this:


as a way of better understanding Guest users. My forum this morning at 0745 EST had 11 members and over 1300 Guests. The add-on says it can sort bots from Guests by whether or not they're using cookies, and also limit daily thread numbers for Guests as a way of encouraging Guests to register. (Our forum is free to join.) I'll note that we already have a limited amount of content that can only be seen by registered users but that doesn't seem to do much.

Thanks in advance for your replies.

-S-
 
Limiting guests typically has the opposite affect. If you limit guests you just get fewer guests and fewer registered users.

You also need to be careful to make sure any add-on you use does not also limit search engines from seeing all your content or you are going to be hurting yourself there also.

I've found valid guests and members typically visit the same content proportionately the same so as long as you're using Google Analytics you can just use their numbers and be done with it. No sense in wasting time and effort. If you really want separate guest numbers just add something like this:

JavaScript:
<script>
    gtag('set', 'user_properties', {
        'user_type': '{{ $xf.visitor.user_id ? "member" : "guest" }}'
    });
</script>

to the google_analytics template. Then you can view separate numbers in GA if you really want them.
 
11 members and over 1300 Guests
At this ratio it is a pretty safe assumption that 90% of your guests are in fact scraping bots.
Then you can view separate numbers in GA if you really want them.
The vast majority of the current scraping bots that come via resident proxies won't show up in GA as they do not serve the GA snippet.
You also need to be careful to make sure any add-on you use does not also limit search engines from seeing all your content or you are going to be hurting yourself there also.
True on the one hand, on the other currently you can basically only limit excessive scraping effectively if you block or limit guest view. One could compose an add on that would defined search engines through and identifies those by their User Agent and (!) the IP they are coming from - however, I don't know of such an add on.
 

Is probably the most active thread discussing all the fun and games of AI scraper bots and what can and can't be done to mitigate things (if you need or want to).
 
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