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XF 1.2 2 months after switching from vB - Traffic still down

Discussion in 'Troubleshooting and Problems' started by Andre Daub, Nov 27, 2013.

  1. Andre Daub

    Andre Daub Member

    I really like XF and i am happy that we did the move from vB 4.21 and vbSEO to XF.
    Posts and Activity are up, Time on Site, Sites per Visit etc. is better than before.

    But Visitors are down by nearly 50%!

    We have had redirects in place. Some People told me, that it takes arround 6 months for full recovery in google. Can anyone confirm this?

    Here you see our traffic. Red Line was the date we switched to XF.


    Maybe i am doing something wrong or have an error on my site?

    I am happy for every Information and help and Motivation. ;-)

    Would it help to install a sitemap?
  2. Andre Daub

    Andre Daub Member

    Last edited: Nov 27, 2013
  3. CyclingTribe

    CyclingTribe Well-Known Member

    You might want to review your robots.txt file (http://www.domaind.de/robots.txt) - especially the section at the very bottom:

    User-agent: *
    Disallow: /
  4. Andre Daub

    Andre Daub Member

    Hm, i can´t see this entry?

    For me it looks like this:

    User-agent: *
    Disallow: /forum/login/
    Disallow: /forum/admin.php
    Disallow: /forum/find-new/
    Disallow: /forum/account/
    Disallow: /forum/posts/
    Disallow: /forum/help/
    Disallow: /forum/search/
    Disallow: /forum/register/
    Disallow: /forum/online/
    Disallow: /forum/goto/
    Disallow: /portal/
    Disallow: /forum/lost-password/
    Disallow: /favicon.ico

    Sitemap: http://www.soccer-fans.de/forum/sitemap/sitemap.xml.gz


    Ah- now i know what you mean. The Domain: domain.tld was just an example. ;-)

    The Domain of the board is: http://www.soccer-fans.de/forum/
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2013
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  5. jwright

    jwright Active Member

    @Andre Daub

    What are you using to gather these statistics? Is it Google Analytics by chance?

    If so, what plugin were you using to report it on vB? Are you using the built-in functionality on XF?
  6. Andre Daub

    Andre Daub Member

    Yes google analytics, we used the build-in way in the admin.
    Last week we changed it and put the code to page_container_js_head Template. But that makes no big difference.
  7. CyclingTribe

    CyclingTribe Well-Known Member

    Ah, okay, well that paints a different picture. :ROFLMAO:

    Okay, so that report in Google Analytics - is it Visitors or is it Page views?

    I would expect page views to drop since XF uses a lot of ajax (instead of reloading and triggering extra page views).

    If that is the case then you have nothing to worry about - it's normal. (y)
  8. jwright

    jwright Active Member

    I'm thinking that your plugin from vBulletin was potentially double counting some traffic? I know we had a similar issue with some parts of our site/forum which gave everyone a fit that our traffic dropped until I finally located what had been inflating numbers.

    A swap to Xenforo itself shouldn't create any drop in legitimate traffic (that wasn't from senseless page views and unnecessary refreshes to begin with) as long as you did proper redirects, as all old traffic can still get to new locations, and with proper robots.txt, as well as site indices, Google and other search engines will re-index your site rather quickly - we're talking days here, not months.
  9. Adam Howard

    Adam Howard Well-Known Member

    XenForo by design has less pages to view, so it will show less page views. This is normal.

    vBulletin had a page to confirm you made a post and a page to confirm you made an edit, for example (just to name a few). XenForo does this all on the same page.

    This saves you both bandwidth, page loads, and overall resources. This is a good thing and now you'll get a true SEO reading and not one "fluffed up" by empty and wasteful pages.
  10. Andre Daub

    Andre Daub Member

    Visitors. Pageviews are only down 10 - 20% because the users read now 4 instead of 2 Pages, and the Time on Site went up too.
    In Users online (15 minutes) , we have seen a big drop. So i learned, that vBulletin shows User who browse pics via google image search as online. They see only the picture, but they are not online.
    Maybe the way how analytics counts is also different. We used the vbseo Plugin to put analytics on vB.
    Yes, because of ajax etc. But like i said, page views is not a big drop like the visitors.

    On the other side, there are missing some pages in the index. I think it should be arround 90.000 and it is only 40.500. Maybe the Sitemap does the job.

    In google Webmastertools there is no Message that anything is wrong.
  11. Mouth

    Mouth Well-Known Member

    Drill down on your visitor count - is it across the board, or localised to region or country? Has the drop occurred in your primary target audience's country? What does XF Admin CP statistics say - has the number of posts, registrations or logons dropped comparatively since the conversions to XF? If your post count, new registrations count, and logons count is roughly the same as prior XF and after XF, then it would seem an Google issue and nothing with the site
  12. Digital Doctor

    Digital Doctor Well-Known Member

    Adsense down ?
    Registrations down ?
  13. Andre Daub

    Andre Daub Member

    It is Search Engine Traffic in my country (google, yahoo and bing are down but google makes 95% of search in germany).
    Statistic looks god, Activity of posts is up by 20%, Registrations are down from before (maybe because of the better spam filter).
    In analytics the Stats are taking on, Users stay longer on the side, are making more pageviews.
    Adsense Drop is like the drop in Pageviews around 20%.
  14. Andre Daub

    Andre Daub Member

    I wonder about that:

    This thread has 63 pages.

    But in google there are only 26 pages of these pages are indexed:


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