Tag Essentials - with AI auto tagging and XFRM support

Tag Essentials - with AI auto tagging and XFRM support [Paid] 2.10.1

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RoyalRumble said:
Is the tag cloud linking to forum tag filter rather than tag pages intended?

So the cloud is linking to;

/forum/forums/forum-name.1/?tags=name

rather than;

/forum/tags/name

I'm pretty sure it is intended, but I wanted to check whether there's a reason for it I'm not seeing?

The reason I'm asking is a crawl one. The widget renders on every page of every node, and the link inherits the current page number, so I'm also getting:

/forum/forums/forum-name.1/page-2?tags=name

Google have started showing them in Search Console under "Alternate page with proper canonical tag" (rather than as duplicates) but I'm thinking, just that node has 2,050 pages and the cloud carries 27 tags, so I figure uit's exposing something like 55,000 crawlable combinations from one node alone? I figure/think (could be wrong?) across the rest of the forum it's a lot of crawl budget spent on URLs that will never be indexed?

Would it be better, or would there be any issue to changing the cloud linking to the tag page, rather than the filter?

Thanks
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It's correct to include the specific forum in the URL (/forum_name.1/) because the cloud is for finding threads in the current forum.
However, we don't have the problem you are having.
If you look at
you will see that the URLs are good.

So I'm stumped as to why they would be different for you. I'm assuming you're using the latest version of Tag Essentials?
 
Thanks.

Your forum behaves the same as mine, the only difference is I have tag cloud sidebar enabled on mobile.

Even though they're not linked within sidebar - Is Google Search Console not flagging the below in page indexing for you?


The past week or so tag URLs are pilling up for me in Search Console.

[Edit] Not to worry, I've just removed the tag cloud from sidebar. Thanks
 
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RoyalRumble said:
Thanks.

Your forum behaves the same as mine, the only difference is I have tag cloud sidebar enabled on mobile.

Even though they're not linked within sidebar - Is Google Search Console not flagging the below in page indexing for you?


The past week or so tag URLs are pilling up for me in Search Console.

[Edit] Not to worry, I've just removed the tag cloud from sidebar. Thanks
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Is it a good idea to index these pages? They are simply a list of content which is indexed elsewhere.
 
Stuart Wright said:
Is it a good idea to index these pages? They are simply a list of content which is indexed elsewhere.
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Don't understand sorry Stuart.

Just for clarity, I suddenly started get emails from Google Search console with page indexing reports, and most were about tag pages from the tag wordcloud, like these;

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I figured it would impact crawl budget which is why I asked the question.

All good though - as I say, I just decided to pull the sidebar tagcloud. I have the tagcloud on forum index but that obviously links to tag page, rather than node filter.
 
RoyalRumble said:
Don't understand sorry Stuart.

Just for clarity, I suddenly started get emails from Google Search console with page indexing reports, and most were about tag pages from the tag wordcloud, like these;

xenforoscreenshot.png


I figured it would impact crawl budget which is why I asked the question.

All good though - as I say, I just decided to pull the sidebar tagcloud. I have the tagcloud on forum index but that obviously links to tag page, rather than node filter.
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Well there are two discussion points, here. The first is that the URLs are wrong. The /page-n element shouldn't be there. It isn't in the tag cloud widget on AVForums, so that's something we can investigate. Why is it wrong on your forum?
And the second point is whether the tag cloud links should be indexed by search engines, anyway. I think they should not because they are simply a filtered thread list. The unfiltered thread lists will be indexed, anyway.
 
Stuart Wright said:
Well there are two discussion points, here. The first is that the URLs are wrong. The /page-n element shouldn't be there. It isn't in the tag cloud widget on AVForums, so that's something we can investigate. Why is it wrong on your forum?
And the second point is whether the tag cloud links should be indexed by search engines, anyway. I think they should not because they are simply a filtered thread list. The unfiltered thread lists will be indexed, anyway.
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On the first - it operates exactly the same on my forum as AVForums. Is it not taking it from the pagination?

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On the second - how can we exclude tag cloud filtered links? I'm thinking it's a good idea to have the forum index tagcloud widget indexed because they link to actual tag pages rather than filtered.
 
RoyalRumble said:
On the first - it operates exactly the same on my forum as AVForums. Is it not taking it from the pagination?

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On the second - how can we exclude tag cloud filtered links? I'm thinking it's a good idea to have the forum index tagcloud widget indexed because they link to actual tag pages rather than filtered.
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oooh, now you've explained it, I can see what you mean. After the filter is applied, you click different pages. These forum view pages have a canonical tag, which indicates to Google that the variants are less important, but it doesn't necessarily ignore them.
The thing is that this isn't a Tag Essentials 'feature'. If you go to a standard Xenforo forum and apply a filter, the same thing happens.
E.g.
xenforo.com

Server configuration and hosting

This forum is for questions about configuring your server for XenForo and how to meet your XenForo hosting needs.
xenforo.com xenforo.com
So this is something that maybe needs raising with the Xenforo team. What do you think?
 
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