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mrGTB said:
I think it's laughable, the thought that Internet Brands are sneakily following Kier around taking screen-shot of what he says on the web. When they should be fixing bugs in vB4.

It sounds like a right old doodle working for IB. All you need for a job position is a screen-shot program. :LOL:
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They are getting Paid for it to stalk him & prtscn everything from his updates :ROFLMAO:
 
Shamil said:
And some more documents.

http://cl.ly/0j3x2O192s1u090e1q42 Order
http://cl.ly/3u3o3Q0S0I1A3y2A222o Declaration of Joseph Rosenblum Part 1
http://cl.ly/0E3A2n0C0T3B0u1u1n0k Declaration of Joseph Rosenblum Part II
http://cl.ly/3b323K082K2U1i193S0E Declaration of David N. Tarlow
http://cl.ly/3n0Z1V1q0h0y283O463K Declaration of Jennifer Rundell
http://cl.ly/0B3n0s0v0T2V3U130Q0s Declaration of Adrian Harris
http://cl.ly/3U0H003H3j1q2a0w373d Declaration of Lynn Tokeshi
http://cl.ly/100H43241739422m2D2P (Bruce Abramson - "Expert Witness" who has NOT reviewed the code, and is basing his opinions on abject nonsense derived completely from timeline events)
{Proof of Order} - I don't think we need to see this.
http://cl.ly/2w1d2p1N1S2V1m1u1j3R Proposed Order - they want all of our informations (?)
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Who's lynn Tokeshi, David N. Tarlow & Jennifer Rundell?
 
vBulletin.4.only.a.few.months.of.limited.testing.webp

I like the way vB ADMITS their vB4 testing was limited in scope.
No wonder the launch was a disaster.
Priceless.

source: http://f.cl.ly/items/232P0U0e390F1c463c1N/031112083469.pdf
This document is laughable ...

Why is this thread even cited in the document ?
http://www.theadminzone.com/forums/showthread.php?p=78018
Page 5: Point 16. URL in footnote.

IB is trying to suggest that because vB4 is OO + PHP + MVC ... and so is Xenforo ... that constitutes Xenforo stealing trade secrets from vB. I'm not a coder and I know all PHP scripts are migrating towards OO + MVC. If I heard that XF was not OO + MVC I would have questioned it.

exactly What IP was alleged to be stolen ?
31 pages of drivel.
 
Shelley said:
Who's lynn Tokeshi, David N. Tarlow & Jennifer Rundell?
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Lynn Tokeshi, the lady who demanded that intangible property be returned to IB, I believe using a computer recycling bin resolves this.

David N Tarlow, Attorney/Counsel for Internet Brands via Ervin Cohen & Jessup LLC

Jennifer Rundell, VP of Content, Internet Brands.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong... Kier listed his last days of employment as June 8th, 2009 in his letter of recommendation (*Checks: Yes*). Adrian quotes two Twitter updates (direct quote here) that state (as accessed on these dates in 2009):
"Integrating some modern code into vintage 2003 javascript. Excuse me while I tear my eyes out." 18 May (02:13)
"Glorious sunshine outside, what a day to be glued to a text editor staring at curly braces." 21 May (00:24)

I have a few things to say about this:
  1. I just pulled up a calendar of May 2009. Those dates occured on a Tuesday and a Friday respectively.
  2. Both occurred during the work day (assuming the times were in fact listed in California's time zone; as LA is 8 hours behind London. 02:13 -> 10:13AM for Kier, etc.)
  3. Both occurred while Kier was still employed by vBSI.
How can these two tweets be used at all against Kier and/or XenForo. Neither indicate to me that he was working on XenForo, both indicate to me that he was doing his job.
 
King Kovifor said:
Correct me if I'm wrong... Kier listed his last days of employment as June 8th, 2009 in his letter of recommendation (*Checks: Yes*). Adrian quotes two Twitter updates (direct quote here) that state (as accessed on these dates in 2009):
"Integrating some modern code into vintage 2003 javascript. Excuse me while I tear my eyes out." 18 May (02:13)
"Glorious sunshine outside, what a day to be glued to a text editor staring at curly braces." 21 May (00:24)

I have a few things to say about this:
  1. I just pulled up a calendar of May 2009. Those dates occured on a Tuesday and a Friday respectively.
  2. Both occurred during the work day (assuming the times were in fact listed in California's time zone; as LA is 8 hours behind London. 02:13 -> 10:13AM for Kier, etc.)
  3. Both occurred while Kier was still employed by vBSI.
How can these two tweets be used at all against Kier and/or XenForo. Neither indicate to me that he was working on XenForo, both indicate to me that he was doing his job.
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Because the dates of the tweets (May) are in 2010, not 2009.... are they not?
 
King Kovifor said:
Correct me if I'm wrong... Kier listed his last days of employment as June 8th, 2009 in his letter of recommendation (*Checks: Yes*). Adrian quotes two Twitter updates (direct quote here) that state (as accessed on these dates in 2009):
"Integrating some modern code into vintage 2003 javascript. Excuse me while I tear my eyes out." 18 May (02:13)
"Glorious sunshine outside, what a day to be glued to a text editor staring at curly braces." 21 May (00:24)

I have a few things to say about this:
  1. I just pulled up a calendar of May 2009. Those dates occured on a Tuesday and a Friday respectively.
  2. Both occurred during the work day (assuming the times were in fact listed in California's time zone; as LA is 8 hours behind London. 02:13 -> 10:13AM for Kier, etc.)
  3. Both occurred while Kier was still employed by vBSI.
How can these two tweets be used at all against Kier and/or XenForo. Neither indicate to me that he was working on XenForo, both indicate to me that he was doing his job.
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This is getting even more embarrassing for IB/Adrian.
 
Nick said:
Because the dates of the tweets (May) are in 2010, not 2009.... are they not?
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Direct quote from him states this:
6. Attached hereto as Exhibit B is a true and accurate copy of a "Tweet" (internet posting made via the Twitter.com program and website) posted by Kier Darby on Twitter.com, which I personally located and printed on or about the date indicated (May 21, 2009) demonstrating he was developing software during the period within one year from the date of his termination.
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Again, providing my sanity Kier states:
My final day of employment shall be Monday, June 8th, 2009.
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May 2009 is not within a year of his termination, its before his termination began. Proving nothing.
 
Nick said:
Yep, I just checked, they certainly are claimed to have been accessed on 2009. Heh...
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Oopps...someone just made an oopsie trying to prove Kier was working on XF within 1 year of leaving VB while the date in fact shows he was still at IB working for IB?
 
Digital Doctor said:
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I like the way vB ADMITS their vB4 testing was limited in scope.
No wonder the launch was a disaster.
Priceless.

source: http://f.cl.ly/items/232P0U0e390F1c463c1N/031112083469.pdf
This document is laughable ...

Why is this thread even cited in the document ?
http://www.theadminzone.com/forums/showthread.php?p=78018
Page 5: Point 16. URL in footnote.

IB is trying to suggest that because vB4 is OO + PHP + MVC ... and so is Xenforo ... that constitutes Xenforo stealing trade secrets from vB. I'm not a coder and I know all PHP scripts are migrating towards OO + MVC. If I heard that XF was not OO + MVC I would have questioned it.

exactly What IP was alleged to be stolen ?
31 pages of drivel.
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I didn't understand the half of the legal language and the rest of many lines about programming either. But what I understand to give examples like video embedding, using a univeral languagel like PHP and try prove the similarity (and claim XenForo copied those from vBulletin) between the sofwares are ridiculous. What next, putting other forum softwares like IP Board, SMF, myBB, phpBB on trial?
 
I believe the tweets were actually posted in 2010 but that they mistyped it as 2009 in the statement.

Edit: Yep, confirmed by Kier (see above).
 
mrGTB said:
I think it's laughable, the thought that Internet Brands are sneakily following Kier around taking screen-shot of what he says on the web. When they should be fixing bugs in vB4.

It sounds like a right old doodle working for IB. All you need for a job position is a screen-shot program. :LOL:
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Yeah, fixing bugs and developing software kinda requires these silly things like coding experience, ingenuity, creativity. That's actually not required to make money though. You just have to buy things and then put ads on them and then buy the thing that makes the ads show and then tweak it a bit and resell it to anyone who you can persuade to trust you. (y)
 
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