What do you think about content production with artificial intelligence?

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Hello everyone,
Producing forum content can be more difficult than producing blog content. When producing blog articles, content can be produced by reading dozens of articles and personal experience. In forum content, on the other hand, it becomes difficult after a while. For this, I get topic ideas from artificial intelligence. Recently, I have been using chatgpt. Google has announced that it does not separate content into artificial intelligence and human. The important thing is not to spam.

Do you produce content with artificial intelligence? What are your thoughts on this subject?
 
Hello!

You're absolutely right that producing forum content can be more challenging compared to blog content. Blogs often allow for more in-depth exploration, while forum posts tend to be more conversational and can sometimes be more reactive or interactive.

Artificial intelligence, like ChatGPT, can certainly be a helpful tool for generating topic ideas or even drafting content for forums. It can quickly provide a range of ideas or perspectives on a given topic, which helps when you need to keep your posts fresh or tackle a wide array of subjects. However, it's essential to remember that while AI can help with brainstorming and drafting, the best forum content often comes from genuine, thoughtful engagement. AI can help, but it's important to add your personal voice, experiences, and nuanced insights to ensure your contributions feel authentic and valuable to the community.

As for Google's stance on AI-generated content, their primary concern is quality and relevance. Whether the content is AI-generated or human-created, if it provides value, is well-structured, and addresses the needs of the user, it will be favored in search results. The key, as you mentioned, is not to spam but to create meaningful and useful content.

What are your thoughts on blending AI-generated content with your own insights? Have you found AI to be useful, or do you prefer more hands-on approaches?

ChatGPT.
 
Old Nick said:
Hello!

You're absolutely right that producing forum content can be more challenging compared to blog content. Blogs often allow for more in-depth exploration, while forum posts tend to be more conversational and can sometimes be more reactive or interactive.

Artificial intelligence, like ChatGPT, can certainly be a helpful tool for generating topic ideas or even drafting content for forums. It can quickly provide a range of ideas or perspectives on a given topic, which helps when you need to keep your posts fresh or tackle a wide array of subjects. However, it's essential to remember that while AI can help with brainstorming and drafting, the best forum content often comes from genuine, thoughtful engagement. AI can help, but it's important to add your personal voice, experiences, and nuanced insights to ensure your contributions feel authentic and valuable to the community.

As for Google's stance on AI-generated content, their primary concern is quality and relevance. Whether the content is AI-generated or human-created, if it provides value, is well-structured, and addresses the needs of the user, it will be favored in search results. The key, as you mentioned, is not to spam but to create meaningful and useful content.

What are your thoughts on blending AI-generated content with your own insights? Have you found AI to be useful, or do you prefer more hands-on approaches?

ChatGPT.
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Reading the first sentence was enough to identify bot content.
And that pretty much answers the question.
 
The key to good content from LLM's it making sure you're not just giving it simple instructions to answer generally (the way it usually would).

Set the scene
"I would like the answer to look like a general reply to a post that you would see on a forum"
"can you avoid follow up questions, since this often looks very much like LLM content"

and so forth, prompt engineering is useful (learn to be better prompt engineers)
.. also, one shot is not always ideal, follow up until it starts giving the right sort of content


The answer above is spot on though, if the content is good, why discriminate against it
 
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Good content is AUTHENTIC.

Maybe I have superpowers, but I doubt it. I can spot so-called "AI" generated content a mile away.

My advice: Don't do it!
 
bzcomputers said:
Not for long! I bet within a year it will be much harder to spot, within a couple years nearly impossible.
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Photoshop has been around for a LONG time. I can also spot photoshopped images pretty easily. Same with "AI" videos. It's SUPER obvious.

So-called "AI" (which is NOT hardly new) will never duplicate the human touch.

Look at today's "Looney Toons" cartoons, which are generated by computer animation. There is a HUGE difference in quality and esthetics (MUCH worse) than the old school hand-drawn cartoons from 40 - 60 years ago. The digital animation suuuuuuuuuuucks in comparison.

The same goes for "CGI" in movies. It's SUPER-obvious and does not even come close to reality. There's a reason they put the actors in real military jets instead of CGI for "Top Gun - Maverick." And that's why the results were SO much better. You can't "CGI" the effects of G-forces on actors' faces. :-) (BTW, I've experienced those G-forces myself - as a passenger in a military jet.)
 
ForumFan said:
Photoshop has been around for a LONG time. I can also spot photoshopped images pretty easily. Same with "AI" videos. It's SUPER obvious.

So-called "AI" (which is NOT hardly new) will never duplicate the human touch.

Look at today's "Looney Toons" cartoons, which are generated by computer animation. There is a HUGE difference in quality and esthetics (MUCH worse) than the old school hand-drawn cartoons from 40 - 60 years ago. The digital animation suuuuuuuuuuucks in comparison.

The same goes for "CGI" in movies. It's SUPER-obvious and does not even come close to reality. There's a reason they put the actors in real military jets instead of CGI for "Top Gun - Maverick." And that's why the results were SO much better. You can't "CGI" the effects of G-forces on actors' faces. :-) (BTW, I've experienced those G-forces myself - as a passenger in a military jet.)
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Not sure why you referenced graphical AI. I'm pretty sure this topic is about textual AI. I do agree graphical AI could take a little longer to be indistinguishable but it will come also.
 
bzcomputers said:
Not sure why you referenced graphical AI. I'm pretty sure this topic is about textual AI. I do agree graphical AI could take a little longer to be indistinguishable but it will come also.
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I referenced it because ALL so-called "AI" is quite obvious to me... textual, photographic, videographic, etc. I'm sure I'm not the only one. Your mileage may vary. ;)

I stand by my position, which is using "AI" to create content for a forum is a bad idea. Authentic content is what will create traffic and participation.
 
It takes practice to get good at AI-generated content.

@tenants is correct. The better the prompts, the better the reply. Here is the generated reply, that I got:
AI's great for brainstorming ideas, but authenticity matters. Use it as a starting point, then add your own flair to keep it real.

Yes, readers do recognize canned AI-content.
1st clue? Poorly AI-generated content puts readers to sleep!
 
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AI is still too verbose. Way moreso than humans. Verbose and repetitive. Haven't seen the AI that has brevity programmed into it yet. The designers have their ego filtered in, they think gobs of text impresses you.
 
It's all about the prompt. I’m slowly getting better results. Using OpenRouter has made it easy to try the various models.
 
Seeker-Smith said:
It's all about the prompt
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Not brevity. I've tried. Asking AI anything is like asking Nick Bockwinkel the time of day. He responds by telling you how to build a watch! He doesn't want to solve your problem or answer your questions - he wants to impress you. This is the current flaw they all have and it comes from human ego - the ego of the designers.
 
Seeker-Smith said:
It's all about the prompt. I’m slowly getting better results. Using OpenRouter has made it easy to try the various models.
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I asked deepseek about a coding problem I have. It proceeded to give me the frikkin history of php coding. My prompt was very specific and accurate and I got Bockwinkel. Ten paragraphs of BS.
 
Max Taxable said:
Not brevity. I've tried. Asking AI anything is like asking Nick Bockwinkel the time of day. He responds by telling you how to build a watch! He doesn't want to solve your problem or answer your questions - he wants to impress you.
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I think you just described a politician. 🤣 Spews lines of BS without actually answering the question. Almost makes me wonder if politicians have been powered by AI for decades. They're just as pointless and useless.

ForumFan said:
I stand by my position, which is using "AI" to create content for a forum is a bad idea. Authentic content is what will create traffic and participation.
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We have rules in the forums I manage now where AI-generated content needs to be clearly labeled as such, as some members will post "fan-created" videos or paste in other content that use AI. I'd ban it completely but don't want to be that draconian.

I do agree also. For me, writing for publication (in a magazine, etc.) and writing content (as articles) for the forums really isn't much different. If it's a quick forum thread, I only need a couple of sentences or paragraphs, which I can bang out in a minute or two. AI for any of these tasks would just make a mess of things (redundant writing with incorrect facts) and it would take me an hour of dicking around with AI to get the right output vs. spending half the time just writing it myself and not worrying about it being incorrect.

And yeah...detecting AI output (for someone like me, who is an actual writer) is easy, just like detecting altered photos. (With photos and videos, it's knowing what evidence to look for.)
 
Here is my AI prompt that eliminates the stiff, verbose, robotic AI cadence:

"Write in a style that is conversational, utilizing idioms, phrasal verbs. Use a relaxed structure with a vibrant blend of brevity, informality, and digital fluency. Make it short and direct, as if submitting a post to a forum"

I still have to edit the content. Never count on AI getting everything right.
 
MerryDay said:
I still have to edit the content. Never count on AI getting everything right.
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For me, having to babysit the output of AI software and edit the content (hoping all the time that I would have found all of the inaccuracies) costs me more effort and time than if I wrote it myself. YMMV, of course.
 
Much of the issue with AI-generated content is that most people don't train the AI language model to produce content that sounds natural.

As another user above pointed out, that content tends to be too verbose, so it doesn't sound right to read to most users. The trick that I found is to provide whichever language model you're using with a ruleset to follow, and only use it to help you write the bulk of the content. From there, read through it yourself and make adjustments so that it sounds more like you wrote it.

I haven't used ChatGPT to produce forum content per se, but I did use it to help me write a newsletter that was read by over 174,000 people for well over a year. This was for a community that definitely would've complained if they had noticed AI-generated content in the newsletter, yet nobody ever did. I'd imagine following my advice above for forum content should produce similar results.

I hope this helps!
 
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