pay via Bitcoin for xenforo license

[CarlNa]

Dear Xenforo Team,

is there still no way to pay a xenforo license via Bitcoin?
Are there any plans to do this?
There are plenty of easy to use solutions, some (like bitpay) have also a "never-touch-crypto" solution for accountants which do not want to deal with crypto at all.

I love to use xenforo. And I also want to buy licenses and do not want to use any nulled download.

Hope you guys change that in future.
Crypto is a must for software and license ecommerce.

All the best
Carl

 

[jb9826]

Paypal banned many of us a decade ago so i couldn't renew my xenforo license for 5 years.

That was 5 years loss of business for xenforo. Many business have lost money due to evil tactics like PayPal.

Eventually xenforo added visa payments.

I use Bitcoin as payments where ever possible. Putting my visa information online is becoming a thing of the past.

The only issue with a company like xenforo is you have to find a company who you can trust with your Bitcoin.

Unless you use BTCPAY Server software which allows anyone to bypass even the Bitcoin exchanges.

All my savings has been out of the traditional banking system. Bitcoin only is the future.

Someday i will be able to renew my xenforo license with my Bitcoin that is worth 105k for 1 as of today

but as far as i see, i dont see anyway to pay with bitcoin in the account area, only fiat money

It's only a matter of time before this happens. Bitcoin is becoming too big to ignore.

 

[FTL]

Just use a debit or credit card and stop worrying about it. I've been doing this for years at XF and lots of other reputable places like Amazon with zero problems.

 

[frm]

Just use a debit or credit card and stop worrying about it. I've been doing this for years at XF and lots of other reputable places like Amazon with zero problems.

The problem is that some people only have $5 today, but in 2010 when they had $5, they scooped up quite a bit of coinage and might have $50,000+ to put to use.

It could be an opportunity to gain more renewals, etc., by allowing Bitcoin as an option.

A lot of developers (here) also accept Bitcoin, since country restrictions, etc., so they too could renew with their payments.

But, that's up to XF.

 

[philmckrackon]

Just use a debit or credit card and stop worrying about it. I've been doing this for years at XF and lots of other reputable places like Amazon with zero problems.

Yep, I use a debit with just the funds needed and lock or unlock as needed.
I never keep any of my cards (debit or credit) unlocked.

 

[FTL]

@frm If someone can't afford the price of XF, then it doesn't matter whether they use bitcoin or some other currency.

Thing is, bitcoin is far too volatile to be used as a regular currency and major companies like Tesla (yes, the Elon Musk one) have stopped accepting it. I wouldn't recommend XF to go down the bitcoin route.

 

[frm]

@frm If someone can't afford the price of XF, then it doesn't matter whether they use bitcoin or some other currency.

but in 2010 when they had $5, they scooped up quite a bit of coinage and might have $50,000+ to put to use.

They can definitely afford it... but they don't have the ability to easily swap BTC to USDT to USD and use a payment platform because of country restrictions.

Companies that accept BTC convert it right away, so there would be no loss. XF would get the $195.

 

[Brad Padgett]

I thought paypal now supported bitcoin. Could you not use paypal and just set the currency to be used as bitcoin?

Would that not work? Just a thought.

 

[FTL]

They can definitely afford it... but they don't have the ability to easily swap BTC to USDT to USD and use a payment platform because of country restrictions.

Companies that accept BTC convert it right away, so there would be no loss. XF would get the $195.

You've missed out the critical point that Tesla and others have stopped accepting it due to its volatility. Why should XF take on that risk?

 

[frm]

You've missed out the critical point that Tesla and others have stopped accepting it due to its volatility. Why should XF take on that risk?

You don't seem to understand that some payment processors convert on the spot, so they would pay whatever the BTC conversion price is at that exact moment for $195 to be deposited. Volitility is moot.

I would venture to say that Tesla stopped due to regulatory and tax reasons, not for volatility, as they'd receive the $30,000 instantly. But, they made it from a short-term capital gain swap from BTC to USD. If that's the case, and taxes are the reason in the UK, add a fee on top to account for taxes in a conversion from one asset to another. Problem solved.

 

[javakhir]

Seems many does not know what are they talking about! if you don't use LLC or Company, does not mean others too!
XF is an official company with tax id registered in England. How should they sent accounting report?
Accept crypto which is restricted officially & pay fines?
Simply because some guys 100% have visa card but they don't want to pay with, LOL

 

[CarlNa]

Seems many does not know what are they talking about! if you don't use LLC or Company, does not mean others too!
XF is an official company with tax id registered in England. How should they sent accounting report?
Accept crypto which is restricted officially & pay fines?
Simply because some guys 100% have visa card but they don't want to pay with, LOL

Please read my first post ...:

There are plenty of easy to use solutions, some (like bitpay) have also a "never-touch-crypto" solution for accountants which do not want to deal with crypto at all.

There are plenty of solution where you do not have touch crypto at all, when you accept it as payment-option.
Xenforo just has to sign up at bitpay (for example), enable bitcoin as payment-option and they got fully report in USD or EUR or GBP and also only fiat-money on their account. They never get any crypto-money at all, providers like bitpay manage this to 100% in the backend.

And this is a thing from the 2020s, its nothing new.


....LOL....

 

[javakhir]

Live in UK for 1 & more year, you will know, that this country number one in the world for rules,
developers are aware of crypto & how it works better than us, they still not added crypto payment method, act according to rules.

if someone sends you money, after you buy XF license, tomorrow finds out that first sender was terrorist, who is going to pay in the end?
if you think that that your information is safe, you are 100% mistaken! any crypto wallet will share all info about you to legal authority.

personally me, would ban all crypto, to make transparent all transaction, which would eliminate bad things

 

[CarlNa]

if someone sends you money, after you buy XF license, tomorrow finds out that first sender was terrorist, who is going to pay in the end?

wtf are you talking about?

personally me, would ban all crypto, to make transparent all transaction, which would eliminate bad things

If thats your point you should also ban computers

 

[Suzanne O]

Crypto is a huge scam.

 

[Suzanne O]

Yes, same as vaccinations....

 

[CedricV]

This is me trying to find the respect among people.

 

[Alpha1]

I think it would be nice if XF would accept crypto. Nowadays its very common for forum users to donate to communities using crypto in order to help with paying the bills. i.e. software licence renewals. So the situation may arise that the funds to pay for license renewals are only available in crypto. I think adding this option will lead to new income for XF as well as 3rd party addon providers.
Thankfully there are various addon and theme developers who accept crypto payment and have even built it into their payment systems. This makes things much easier.

 

[smallwheels]

It seems relatively easy: It is a business decision. If offering payment in crypto would rise sales considerably w/o relevant additional risks tied to it and the gain though additions sales is relevantly higher than the cost it could be worth thinking about it. I do have my doubts that this is the case.

Crypto is an area full of gamblers, scammers and dreamers, highly volatile and for a serious, legitimate business that sells software licenses I do not really see a benefit in offering it for almost all cases imaginable. But potentially a lot of effort and hassle for no benefit and barely any additional revenue. I highly doubt that a relevant portion of the customer base would prefer to pay in crypto, let alone say: "I would really love to buy XenForo. Too bad that the only option I have for paying ist crypto which they don't offer." Face it: If you only want to pay in crypto you are locked out from 99,9% of buying anything online and of 99,99999999% of buying anything offline. Which hints at that someone who says he can only pay in crypto is possibly not telling the truth in almost all cases.

I don't mind if XF offers crypto or not but personally don't see any reason why they should. This statement...

Crypto is a must for software and license ecommerce.

seems to come from a very dense filter bubble and has in my eyes absolutely no relation to reality and abolutely no foundation.

Live in UK for 1 & more year, you will know, that this country number one in the world for rules

Come to Germany - it will change your opinion within days.

 

[frm]

If offering payment in crypto would rise sales considerably w/o relevant additional risks tied to it and the gain though additions sales is relevantly higher than the cost it could be worth thinking about it. I do have my doubts that this is the case.

Man, their sales page for businesses just disproves nearly everything you said.