XF 2.1 How to hard delete conversations?

[orthopug]

A couple of my members had mistakenly sent private information over conversations that they now want permanently deleted. Is this possible? If they delete the conversations, will it be permanently erased from the database?

 

[Lucandi]

So easy? Thanks

 

[beerForo]

FB does it like this now which is a welcome addition.

 

[RobinHood]

Yeah, you’ve been able to delete What’sApp messages on group chats for a while now, very useful. Most chat apps let you delete your messages these days without having to leave the conversation completely.

 

[beerForo]

This is not just group it's all but yeah. You can delete individual messages and it removes from the other side. If you go to delete the entire convo it still leaves a copy so you have to delete one by one if trying to remove a convo. But it's useful yes. Like some people said they may have sent something by mistake or personal info in a screenshot or something. Bam. Gone.

 

[beerForo]

I'd suggest it but the Conversation system is so old and dated we need more of a messenger.

Instant message with friends online

Something that facebook has. The option to instant message your friends that are on-line. Something you can enable and disable per user, usergroup.

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[RobinHood]

It only feels dated as it’s not live. In most other respects it’s far more feature rich than most chat options. The current conversation system is great if you need to have more in depth ‘conversations’, where you can take your time to compose a paragraphed response. Use the quote functionality multiple times, attach multiple items etc.

In that sense it’s more like email, but way better.

If it could be made more real-time like a true chat system, that would make it even better still. Kind of pointless without a mobile app to deliver chat notifications when on the move though, IMO.

 

[beerForo]

I find it very heavy, every post has all the user info/sig etc. It's basically a thread with invited users. If XF were to introduce a messenger they could keep Conversations and call them Private Threads. The suggestion I linked to in fact is suggesting a messenger addition and not overhaul. Or it could be one.

 

[Paul B]

I created the app messenger style layout just for laughs but I'm actually using it on my own site now and much prefer it to the thread/post style layout.

 

[beerForo]

I was going to post it actually can you link it here?

 

[Paul B]

WhatsXFessenger

Tired of conversations looking exactly the same as threads? Didn't think so. Members getting confused between threads, conversations, and profile posts and keep posting embarrassingly private stuff in threads? No, mine neither. Ever felt that...

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[beerForo]

LOL I love the description but there's one type

would ne waaaaaaayyyy

 

[Paul B]

Finally!

Someone noticed.

 

[Orit]

Conversations cannot be deleted in the same way other content can.

They will be deleted from the database once all participants have left.

The member can edit their message to remove the content, if they have the relevant permission.

Can I delete the conversation directly from the DB by deleting the message id row?

 

[Paul B]

No - never do that.

There are multiple tables involved.

 

[Orit]

No - never do that.

There are multiple tables involved.

Thanks!
I would love to have an option to delete messages... While checking a new users' account I accidentally sent a message to another user
I quickly edited it but it is not the same...

 

[Mr Lucky]

quickly edited it but it is not the same..

No but removing the content is as good as deleting.

Even with a database deletion you can’t make them unsee what they have already seen, or delete an email notification if the message content was in that so editing is probably the best option.

 

[nocte]

Useful in that context is "user kicking" with "Conversation Essentials" by @Xon:

• Kick Participants out of conversations. Option to allow certain user groups to kick a user out of their conversation via a "kick" link at the bottom of the participants list. A kicked user may be re-invited back into the conversation at any time. Please note that those users who leave the conversation on their own accord cannot be invited back as per default XenForo behaviour. Administrators cannot be kicked out of conversations, while Moderators can only be kicked out by Administrators.

Conversation Essentials

About: This add-on adds vital functions and features for viewing and managing personal conversations. Currently installed on large forums with no reported issues. This add-on is simply a must have for anyone with more than just a few...

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