Right now to me one of the best pieces of information is being able to see members in the tracker who go from blocking ads one minute to not blocking ads the next. This informs me they are staying and shutting off there ad-blocking for the site after seeing the ad-block warning from your other app -
AdBlock Detection [anti-AdBlock]. After that you can see the current detects for that member sit at "1" and non-detects continue to climb. Proving not only did they stay after turning off their ad-blocker, but they are staying for awhile.
I'm finding very similar. I'm also a little shocked at the percentage of guests that are adblocking (I don't have guests being nagged to turn it off). My statistics are almost exactly 50% of people adblocking, whereas for my actual users, who do get nagged, only 3%.
My site has really valuable and helpful content for a very targetted group of people. They simply can't find this information elsewhere, so having 50% of guests adblocking is rather frustrating given the costs to run the site properly. Typical content provider first-world problems, but still, it's a little annoying to say the least.
The one current limitation to the tracker right now is I can't get this same data displayed currently for guests. I like the way guests are consolidated under a single row in the current tracker, it is informative and nice to be able to see the totals for guest detects and non-detects quickly. It would be even better if we could also see guest tracking expanded (possibly in another tracker chart). That way we could see if guests were doing the same thing (turning of ad-blocker and staying). Right now that isn't possible, but I believe the data for this may already exist.
I definitely agree with you, I'm curious myself. It's been suggested to track by IP... cookie's would work well too, or a combination of both (or selectable by the admin how they wish to track this).
I definitely want to get this done but it'll take some time. The reason guests are "global" right now is because none of that currently exists, it's simply tracking guests as "user_id = 0", which was simple and quick to implement when someone requested it.... however, after seeing these results on my community, like you've seen on yours, I'm super curious to see what you're asking too. So, give me some time and I'll get it done.
I'm still shocked it's 50% of my guests
I was thinking maybe 30% at best.
It is nice to see that my actual registered users support the site though, at least most of them. It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.
This additional tracking information would be informative in showing if ad-blocker warnings are actually running guests off or if most will turn it off and stay (like I'm currently seeing from registered members). This additional tracking data would also allow us to tweak our ad-blocker detection settings (how often it shows, delay to show, etc.) and see how it affects guests and their retention on the site, since guests will always be the higher percentage of visitors who are blocking ads.
Yeah, I think it's a fine line. I leave crappy sites pretty quick if I can just find the information elsewhere where I don't get nagged. However, like my community, and other sites that have particular information, I'm quick to turn my adblocker off if it's good content I can't get elsewhere.
I guess what forum owners have to figure out for themselves is, are you offering something unique? If so, nag them. If not, maybe it's better to wait to nag until they're regular users of your forum.
I think over time, and with these statistics, I'm starting to get a nice happy-medium of not annoying, but gently massaging users to turn it off.
However, like most sites, a good chunk of my actual page views are guests, not registered users.
