Why Do You Post Free Resources?

DRE · Apr 13, 2012

Adam Howard · Apr 13, 2012

Open Source is your friend.

I find that posting free and open source content, often leads to a community driven developed product. And the collective can often produce things are a much quicker, stable, feature rich`ed, and support driven product than any small hand full of closed circle developers could ever do for money.

But I also as a rule of thumb typical support free development (donations) and more than likely, will purchase from those who have in the past provided a high quality free product -vs- the ones who didn't offer any or didn't remain active in their free products (long term).

Both I see go hand in hand.

Bob · Apr 13, 2012

TheVisitors said:
Open Source is your friend.

It can also be your worst nightmare.

ChemicalKicks · Apr 13, 2012

Sharing is caring.

Adam Howard · Apr 13, 2012

bobster65 said:
It can also be your worst nightmare.

Only when something unsecure gets snuck in. But that can happen also paid products as well

Bob · Apr 13, 2012

TheVisitors said:
Only when something unsecure gets snuck in.

lol ok...

Adam Howard · Apr 13, 2012

bobster65 said:
lol ok...

If your argument is competing a paid product to a free open source product....

I'd have so may ways to reply to that. But mostly my personal reply would be...

LOL

Sadik B · Apr 13, 2012

because you made something for your own site which you want to share and don't have the time and can't commit to support expectations of "paying" customers...

Bob · Apr 13, 2012

TheVisitors said:
If your argument is competing a paid product to a free open source product....

I'd have so may ways to reply to that. But mostly my personal reply would be...

LOL

I am not arguing anything about Paid vs Free. I responded to your single statement about Open source being your friend by saying It can also be your worst nightmare. Has absolutely NOTHING to do with Paid vs Free.

Your statement about "Only when something unsecure gets snuck in" is WRONG tho and that is what I rolled my eyes at. That is simply not true. There are 1000s of Novices that don't know what they are doing that release open source code that is insecure, but it has absolutely nothing to do with purposely sneaking code in. It has to do with the fact that they don't know what they are doing. The same thing happens with Noovices that release PAID stuff.

Floris · Apr 13, 2012

It's not free & open source vs paid & visible ..

Just because it's free does NOT mean it's open source. At all. Just mean the price is $0.

ragtek · Apr 13, 2012

Why Do You Post Free Resources?

Because i don't want to charge x$ for some add-ons which took me 5 minutes to code and where i don't think that i'll have to invest too much time to maintain them in the future.

Not everybody is in the position to pay 100$ / coding hour to make his forum like he wants... (That's why i have my special prices^^)
As i moved my board to vB it was really hard to find good german speaking coders which would could this for free (like it happened in the php szene...)
That's why i had to learn myself coding & now i enjoy the sharing...

But on the other side, it's my job.
Since my burnout i've sold/closed all my communities, so ATM my only income is with add-on development and if i would release everything for free, i would lose my luxurious life (e.g. have something to eat, pay my rent etc....

)

borbole · Apr 13, 2012

bobster65 said:
It can also be your worst nightmare.

True that.

ChemicalKicks said:
Sharing is caring.

Sharing is caring when it is a 2 way street, give and take. Not take only.

Personally I stopped releasing free mods and providing free support becuase I had enough of the attitude of a lot of users. If you would bother check my profile here and at vb you will see how active I have been helping others whenever I could. But all I got in return was grief and headache. It was like they thought that that help or that free mod was owed to them. Like those who help others and/or code/style are here to do their bidding pronto whenever they want. Where I come from it is a way street. Meaning that we give as well besides taking.

It was this ungratefulness and unappreciations that made me feel like I was Joe Schmuck and made me turn to paid support and release only paid mods.

borbole · Apr 13, 2012

ragtek said:
Because i don't want to charge x$ for some add-ons which took me 5 minutes to code and where i don't think that i'll have to invest too much time to maintain them in the future.

Not everybody is in the position to pay 100$ / coding hour to make his forum like he wants... (That's why i have my special prices^^)
As i moved my board to vB it was really hard to find good german speaking coders which would could this for free (like it happened in the php szene...)
That's why i had to learn myself coding & now i enjoy the sharing...

But on the other side, it's my job.
Since my burnout i've sold/closed all my communities, so ATM my only income is with add-on development and if i would release everything for free, i would lose my luxurious life (e.g. have something to eat, pay my rent etc.... )

If your only source of income is coding then if I were you I wouldn''t be bothered too much if a mod that I would sell took 5 minutes to code or 5 seconds. I would release all my work as paid and not rely on donations. Speaking of which, just out of curiousity, how many people have donated?

Digital Doctor · Apr 13, 2012

I think Xenforo users from now until eternity will want Addons.
Making great Addons takes major skill, time and effort.
Relying on "Altruism" to create and support Addons is "not optimal".
Easy to purchase, Low Cost, Supported Addons are the only reliable way forward.
With even a small dose of payment creativity ... there must be a way to please users and coders.

aiman.h.kallaf · Apr 13, 2012

Unlike paid resources , free resources comes from the heart and show that a person is loving and working out of heart .
it is not time wasted and as good done toward others . good will find it way back when in need.

Adam Howard · Apr 13, 2012

bobster65 said:
I am not arguing anything about Paid vs Free. I responded to your single statement about Open source being your friend by saying It can also be your worst nightmare. Has absolutely NOTHING to do with Paid vs Free.

Your statement about "Only when something unsecure gets snuck in" is WRONG tho and that is what I rolled my eyes at. That is simply not true. There are 1000s of Novices that don't know what they are doing that release open source code that is insecure, but it has absolutely nothing to do with purposely sneaking code in. It has to do with the fact that they don't know what they are doing. The same thing happens with Noovices that release PAID stuff.

Open source gives the advancement of a community developing and improving upon X product. So while version 1 maybe done by a "fool", version 2 maybe directly or off branched released by a collective of people who do know what they're doing and it could be outstanding.

Of course the product in question really depends if it's of interest to anyone else. If so, than it has a lot of opportunity and if not, it's likely not to be used by anyone, anyways.

I've never known a valued open source project to ever suffer long term of the issue you discribe. But I'm interested in hearing any examples if you have any.

Floris · Apr 14, 2012

"I've never known a valued open source project to ever suffer long term of the issue you discribe. But I'm interested in hearing any examples if you have any."

Yeah, let's turn this into a pissing contest.

Not; you clearly haven't gone to many open source web sites like freecode.com hotscripts.com etc or read any recent news about kubuntu and more known projects like that. And how's that IPB open source free version doing?

DRE · Apr 14, 2012

TheVisitors said:
Open Source is your friend.

I find that posting free and open source content, often leads to a community driven developed product. And the collective can often produce things are a much quicker, stable, feature rich`ed, and support driven product than any small hand full of closed circle developers could ever do for money.

But I also as a rule of thumb typical support free development (donations) and more than likely, will purchase from those who have in the past provided a high quality free product -vs- the ones who didn't offer any or didn't remain active in their free products (long term).

Both I see go hand in hand.

Open Source never came to my bday party so he ain't my friend. lol jk

DRE · Apr 14, 2012

borbole said:
True that.

Sharing is caring when it is a 2 way street, give and take. Not take only.

Personally I stopped releasing free mods and providing free support becuase I had enough of the attitude of a lot of users. If you would bother check my profile here and at vb you will see how active I have been helping others whenever I could. But all I got in return was grief and headache. It was like they thought that that help or that free mod was owed to them. Like those who help others and/or code/style are here to do their bidding pronto whenever they want. Where I come from it is a way street. Meaning that we give as well besides taking.

It was this ungratefulness and unappreciations that made me feel like I was Joe Schmuck and made me turn to paid support and release only paid mods.

At what point did you start getting attitude from the users of your mods? How long into it did that start?

The only time I've gotten attitude is usually after I've done too much for someone and something doesn't go their way, that's why it ain't ways great helping people because some people can't appreciate. Because I like helping, I don't let myself get too involved with other people's stuff so that I don't get annoyed by their bs whenever they start tripping.

DRE · Apr 14, 2012

aiman.h.kallaf said:
Unlike paid resources , free resources comes from the heart and show that a person is loving and working out of heart .
it is not time wasted and as good done toward others . good will find it way back when in need.

I like free. Free, like freedom is not something that's held back. Not by chains or how much money you don't have. Sharing free, sharing freedom is a little like love. Brotherly, sisterly, etc but at it's best when it's returned.

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