You're probably not using permissions correctly then. They are supposed to be cumulative across multiple user groups. Everyone has Registered as their Primary group with base permissions and users added to multiple secondary user groups to give additional permissions. See this guide for details.Maybe already mentioned, but id like to copy usergroep permissions when adding a new group with minor changes.
Maybe already mentioned, but id like to copy usergroup permissions when adding a new group with minor changes.
Sorry if some of these things are already functioning and it's just my inability to discover how to use them, but from my own use it would be nice to be able to have:
1. More tools made available for Moderators without having to make them 'Administrators', such as easy one click banning for trolls as well as spammers, ip address searching, discouraging and user group moving. Currently I have to make them Admins with custom permissions to be able to have access to these things.
--- In short, it would be nice to have the full Edit User Profile options available to Moderators if desired.
2. Moderators and Admins be able to view full registration data without having to leave the front-end profile (such as email address, birthday, custom fields, ip address). I really loved this about VB, it frustrates me having to go to a different control panel and then bounce around multiple tabs to see basic user information -- it's very helpful to know whether a user is a spammer / troll. It's even more difficult for my less computer-savvy Moderators.
3. Make IP address viewing, discouraging and one-click banning options (in addition to spam cleaner) accessible from the front-end profile for moderators.
Sorry if some of these things are already functioning and it's just my inability to discover how to use them, but from my own use it would be nice to be able to have:
1. More tools made available for Moderators without having to make them 'Administrators', such as easy one click banning for trolls as well as spammers, ip address searching, discouraging and user group moving. Currently I have to make them Admins with custom permissions to be able to have access to these things.
--- In short, it would be nice to have the full Edit User Profile options available to Moderators if desired.
2. Moderators and Admins be able to view full registration data without having to leave the front-end profile (such as email address, birthday, custom fields, ip address). I really loved this about VB, it frustrates me having to go to a different control panel and then bounce around multiple tabs to see basic user information -- it's very helpful to know whether a user is a spammer / troll. It's even more difficult for my less computer-savvy Moderators.
3. Make IP address viewing, discouraging and one-click banning options (in addition to spam cleaner) accessible from the front-end profile for moderators.
Even some easily done "surveys" during install as to how do you want your website to run could save alot of grief. Based on the simple questions, permissions could be set accordingly.moderator role / administrator role,
And the whole .... everyone's primary usergroup should be "Registered" weirdness was just ... well ... awkward.
I am encountering similar issues as I too have a bad members group with severe restrictions. The normal promotions system makes automatic demotion to such a sin-bin group impossible because it would bounce back and forth eternally.I cannot make that warning level cause them to be transferred solely to the "sin-bin" group, which has more limited rights.
I cannot make that warning level cause them to be transferred solely to the "sin-bin" group, which has more limited rights.
This is actually very easy to do and something I set up on my site. It's not about removing users to give them less rights, it's about adding users to another user groups that restricts their rights.I am encountering similar issues as I too have a bad members group with severe restrictions. The normal promotions system makes automatic demotion to such a sin-bin group impossible because it would bounce back and forth eternally.
As for moderators being able to ban (either temporarily or permanently) this can be achieved through warnings and warning actions. I described how to do this for a temporary ban (and from this you can work out how to do it for a permanent ban) in this post:Permanent one-click bans, for trolls & spammers etc, is and always will be a moderator role, not an administrator role, by consensus of the whole forum-space, regardless of what anyone who works for XenForo declares.
That sort of works. But not really. It leads to a mess which I cant oversee with every member being in up to a dozen usergroups and me losing all overview of how my permissions are built up. Right now ever user has one major usergroup with all main permissions in it. This is not how XF is supposed to work, but this is the only way I can remember the permissions for all my usergroups in hundreds of nodes.This is actually very easy to do and something I set up on my site. It's not about removing users to give them less rights, it's about adding users to another user groups that restricts their rights.
But this then needs to be overridden again by other usergroups... Which is not possible.Well, this is the one instance where you actually use the Never permission setting.
This is exactly how XenForo is supposed to work, I'm sure that @Brogan has pointed you to his guide which explains exactly how using multiple user groups for users works:That sort of works. But not really. It leads to a mess which I cant oversee with every member being in up to a dozen usergroups and me losing all overview of how my permissions are built up. Right now ever user has one major usergroup with all main permissions in it. This is not how XF is supposed to work, but this is the only way I can remember the permissions for all my usergroups in hundreds of nodes.
Never doesn't ever need to be overridden. If you want to deny permissions to members, you use Not Set (No) in user group permissions or Revoke in Node permissions. Never is only ever used in rare cases such as the "Naughty Step" group, which members would be removed from if you ever want them to have those permissions again. Also you can have several "Naughty Step" user groups if you want several levels of restrictions and for the worst offenders they would be in all 3 (again the groups would be designed to be cumulative with no overlap of permissions).But this then needs to be overridden again by other usergroups... Which is not possible.
See my previous post where I linked to an example on how to achieve this.any chance to add option to moderators can only ban people for 24 hours to 7 days, and permanent ban is only admin option!
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