Galleria: The Basics

[Digital Doctor]

administration is not moderation.

Overall, too much stuff is done in the adminCP.
Addons should not follow that methodology.

[Suggestion] Inline admin
http://xenforo.com/community/threads/suggestion-inline-admin.3278/

Advanced inline editor.
http://xenforo.com/community/threads/advanced-inline-editor.7004/

Watch this video.
Edit Mode in Concrete5

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Read some of the comments and more on YouTube.

Xenforo addons should have an "EDIT MODE" where possible.
I should be able to edit my articles, wiki posts, Gallery Listings, etc --- ALL from Viewing My Site.

For every admin like you Peggy, who knows where to go, there are 30 who:
(1) want to install plugins like wordpress = CLICK once.
(2) want to edit the page that they are viewing.

Easy inline Editing and Administration = Successful Admins = Happy Cu$tomers.

This cms looks ideal for clients who are more comfortable editing the page without leaving it. I think too many OS cms solutions are forgetting about the people who'll be doing the editing and are way too complex for the average Joe. I've spoken to business owners,? and you'd be surprised how many are not too hot with backend admin juggling thing. In-contect editing is so cool.
Nice one C5!

 

[Jeremy]

As of v1.0, there will be no inline front end management. Its much easier and time efficient for me to get this released quickly. Inline moderation will be there. Mostly, the ACP set up is strictly for moderators & galleries. Image approval will most likely have a front-end management system.

 

[Digital Doctor]

Great.
For the Gallery "Home Page" - try to make the layout design done ON the Page !

See if you can make an INLINE admin/mod "EDIT" Mode

 

[Jeremy]

Great.
For the Gallery "Home Page" - try to make the layout design done ON the Page !

See if you can make an INLINE admin/mod "EDIT" Mode

I'm sorry?

 

[Digital Doctor]

EDIT MODE

see the EDIT mode in the Video

 

[dieketzer]

I think one of the things you need to think about when designing any mod is "Does it do anything better than what is currently available around the net?". A built in gallery doesn't do this if you ask me; while yes, the administrators/mods will use the gallery to fill it with content, users wont. We had galleries in vBulletin, and I could never get my users to use them and I dont think even XenForo can change that.

They instead uploaded their pictures to flickr, photobucket, imageshack or one of the many free hosting websites out there. An image gallery ties the user into the host of the gallery, and people would rather not have their images tied to a specific forum, but to a gallery website like flickr. So honestly I find an image gallery as one of those mods that admins install because they think its "cool", but in the end, doesn't bring anything beneficial to the table.

i think the only way i can get anyone to use a gallery on my xf, is if they can submit photos via email. another draw would be the ability to import/synch with photobucket and flickr. unfortunately, nobody else sees the usefulness of such things, so its unlikely to ever happen.

 

[ragtek]

It depends on the community.


I have 5 boards, where i use(d) photoplog. in 3 of them, people uploaded hunderds of photos every weekend, but in the other 2 they don't wanted a gallery.
Everybody had a flickr account and i can understand, that they don't wanted to upload the same photos severel times on different pages.

Because of this, i wrote a flickr plugin for vB http://www.vbulletin-germany.org/showthread.php?t=5421 a

 

[Digital Doctor]

I have 5 boards, where i use(d) photoplog in 3 of them, in one people uploaded hunderds of photos every weekend, but in the other 2 they don't want a gallery.

I think times have changed alot in the last 18 months.
How long have you been using Photoplog ?
Facebook and Flickr are gaining lots of momentum.

One reason why someone might want to use Photoplog (forum based gallery) is that they don't want their forum pictures mixing with their Flickr account (where they share images with their friends and family). For hosted accounts, images can strain limited resources.

 

[ragtek]

I think times have changed alot in the last 18 months.
How long have you been using Photoplog ?

5-6 years

 

[Cory Booth]

Maybe the Gallery should:
(1) Be a Gallery mostly for Admins and Mods
(2) Concentrate on API integration with Facebook, Flickr, Photobucket, etc for the users.

I could go for something like that - similar to Jaxel's Media Plugin which "pulls-in" YouTube videos - etc...
However, for me it would have to connect to FaceBook as that's where my user's normally post photos besides my site.

Is that possible?

 

[Cory Booth]

I feel that for sites, an integrated gallery is key. And by integrated, I mean a product built f0r it. If something like PhotoPost creates a "gallery" where they port it over and the only things it supports are their features with Xen templates, its not good enough for me. A gallery that integrates and builds based on WHAT the software offers or is about is a lot more appealing than something else.

Aside from an API to FaceBook - this is truly where my money is and how I would like to see it developed.
For us small board owners, the only advantages to using an API is you get to use the power of FaceBook/YouTube as a media sever to upload and process the media....
But I'd rather host my own media... Just my preference.

 

[iTuN3r]

Any updates on this ?

 

[Jeremy]

Still working on the UI. That's my project tonight.

 

[Tigratrus]

There are also legal issues to consider, depending on what you want to do with the content on your site. If images are uploaded to your server, depending on your Terms and Conditions, you may have the right to use them in articles and or other content that you create. It can be MUCH more problematic if they are uploaded/hosted on another site. I've also seen tons of threads where members linked in images and other media hosted on other systems, and 6 months later, those are all broken links. Now granted, we're a project/DIY type of site, so those images and the discussions they were uploaded in support of frequently have a very long shelf-life, if your niche is more transitory (current events/celebrities etc) than the situation would be total different.

It makes thing far more reliable and a much better experience overall if the pictures etc are uploaded to our server. Avoids all kinds of issues.

 

[Jethro]

drooling right now

Sorry I'll switch the webcam off then ....

 

[Sador]

There are also legal issues to consider, depending on what you want to do with the content on your site. If images are uploaded to your server, depending on your Terms and Conditions, you may have the right to use them in articles and or other content that you create. It can be MUCH more problematic if they are uploaded/hosted on another site. I've also seen tons of threads where members linked in images and other media hosted on other systems, and 6 months later, those are all broken links. Now granted, we're a project/DIY type of site, so those images and the discussions they were uploaded in support of frequently have a very long shelf-life, if your niche is more transitory (current events/celebrities etc) than the situation would be total different.

It makes thing far more reliable and a much better experience overall if the pictures etc are uploaded to our server. Avoids all kinds of issues.

The other way around though is that if people start uploading pictures on your server which are somehow copyrighted by someone else, that could have some nasty side effects as well..

Actually, some kind of watermark for the gallery would be nice as well.

 

[Tigratrus]

The other way around though is that if people start uploading pictures on your server which are somehow copyrighted by someone else, that could have some nasty side effects as well..

Not really... You just take them down if you're asked to. Not really a big deal.

 

[iTuN3r]

Still working on the UI. That's my project tonight.

Waiting

 

[Tigratrus]

Wishlist:

1. The ability to use an uploader like plupload so that images are resized on the WORKSTATION instead of the server. We have a bazillion users who have no clue how to resize images, they get frustrated when it takes forever to upload the multi-meg images they took with their smartphone. Having it resized BEFORE the upload saves tremendously on bandwidth, provides a FAR better user experience is all around superior.
2. All images should be stored in a central gallery that can be sorted by type/tag and/or user. ** Centralized reusable images are KEY, having valuable user contributed content buried in message attachments is a horrible thing **
3. Users can tag each other's images in the centralized gallery (Tags like in wordpress tags/iphoto tagging just associating that image with a bit of text to help generate user created informational grouping)
4. User can bring up their images so that they can drop them into their posts as thumbs linked to a popup of the full image.
5. Images can have "notes" added to them (like flicker) and or people tagging in facebook.
6. Users should be able to group their images into albums.
7. Users should be able to drag&drop images from one album to another.
8. If member sees an interesting image and wants to talk about it, they should be able to "comment on image" which creates a thread in the forum (in a designated forum of set of forums based on the image classification). Admin should be able to set a prefix for the beginning of the title of the thread created (this does wonders for SEO!). An alert should be sent to the image owner letting them know that someone asked a question about, or commented on their image.

We have much of the above built and working in our existing vB/Photoplog system. as well as the ability for users to upload images as "Sets" that can then be associated with a thread. Multiple sets can also be associated with a single thread and are shown as tabs along the top of the OP. It's not always used correctly, but a lot of that is because of how hard we have had to work to overcome limitations in the vB system. Here's an so-so example of how it can be used:

http://www.ikeafans.com/forums/project-blogs/30813-updating-alberts-moms-1970-kitchen.html

Ahh... Here's a better one:
http://www.ikeafans.com/forums/project-blogs/29449-our-99-finished-breakfast-room-stat-white.html

 

[Allan]

There are any good news on the evolution of the hack?